On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 16:04 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: > OK, if the following is not the reason, then I don't know anything > anymore :) > > > My playouts allow multiple suicide. I believe Orego does the same. I > found that not checking for that actually made things faster overall. > But I bet that accounts for the longer average game-length.
You playouts allow multiple suicide. I assume you do not allow single stone suicide? I think this rule can make a bot much faster - don't know if it has an impact one way or other on the strength. However it's not what is specified. I am quite sure this will impact the speed - and I will look to see how difficult it is to change this with my bot in order to compare numbers. > > If suicide is not allowed I'd say that criteria #2: > > > 2. In the play-out phase, the moves must be chosen in a "uniformly > random" way between legal moves that do not fill 1 point eyes and > obey the simple-ko restriction. > > > should explicitly make mention of suicide not being allowed. It is explicitly mentioned in point 10. However, I agree that point 2 needs clarification. It is technically correct because I say "all LEGAL moves except ..." but without a careful reading it's easy to read that all empty points except simple ko and eye moves are allowed. - Don > > > Mark > > > > > On 23-okt-08, at 15:32, Weston Markham wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Mark Boon > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is still something I don't understand. Are there others who > > > implemented > > > the same thing and got 111 moves per game on average? I tried to > > > look > > > through some posts on this list but didn't see any other numbers > > > published. > > > > > > 111 matches my recollection from past experiments that I did with > > playouts that probably match Don's. I think that this number has > > been > > posted previously on the mailing list. > > > > > > Weston > > _______________________________________________ > > computer-go mailing list > > computer-go@computer-go.org > > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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