If you look at the rating table on the cgos web page you will see that
600 ELO difference corresponds to about 97% winning percentage.    At
the levels I tested against gnugo a single game per 100 could swing it
50 ELO.   Since it did not lose a single game you could assume that it
was either lucky,  or that it's self-play rating was pretty accurate.   
It seems like I played 100-200 games or so.  

I think the version of gnugo I used tests around 1800 on CGOS.   The
graph implies about 1000 ELO difference which is consistent with winning
every game.  

However, I don't remember if I calibrated the graph or whether it's
arbitrary.    It seems like I had a version of gnugo as an anchor, but I
don't see it in the graph.    I could have simply extrapolated from CGOS
for one of the version.  

  http://cgos.boardspace.net/index.html

- Don



Don Dailey wrote:
>> Don, the data was derived from self-play, wasn't it?
>>     
>
> Yes, it was derived from self play.    
>
> I also did a study at one time where I tried these doublings against a
> stable gnugo version and got very similar results -  the program went
> from being crushed by gnugo (rarely winning a game) to the point where
> gnugo could not win a single game.     The ratings differences were very
> similar at the 3 or 4 levels near gnugo,  but at the extreme ranges they
> were inflated (you can't accurately rate a program that always wins.)
>
> To get the most accurate ratings you want to play a good percentage of
> opponents that are near your own strength.
>
> - Don
>
>
>   
>> Chrisotph
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> computer-go mailing list
>> computer-go@computer-go.org
>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
>>
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> computer-go mailing list
> computer-go@computer-go.org
> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
>
>   
_______________________________________________
computer-go mailing list
computer-go@computer-go.org
http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Reply via email to