On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 23:10 +0200, Sylvain Gelly wrote: > Hi Don, > > > I am considering to change the time control when I change > > over officially to 5 minutes instead of 10. 5 minutes seems > > more than adequate for the Monte Carlo programs which play > > quite strongly even at 2 minutes per game. > > > > What does everything think about that? > I guess you mean everyone? :-) Or maybe I missed something :-/.
I want the opinon of inanimate objects :-) > I think it is better and worse in the same time. 5 minutes is better > because it allows you to rate your program twice as fast, and the > rating is likely to be similar. The bad thing is that real good games > happen with more time, so I wonder how far the estimation would be > from the strength of the program in "real" conditions. Of course we > can count on the scalability of the algorithm, but still. But what are real conditions? Is 10 minutes a standard and if so it is standard for 19x19 or 9x9? At any rate, I will probably go with 5 minutes unless I get a lot of protests, in which case I will stay with 10 minutes. I have considered the pro's and con's below. > I personally do almost all my tests with 3k simulations per move, and > count on the scalability. > > But I wanted to raise the point. For example I think things like seki > would take importance only with stronger programs so only with more > time. > I don't have a strong opinion on that. There are many considerations, both positive and negative, but mostly positive I think: 1. Rate games faster. 2. Server is more dynamic - for the impatient :-) 3. Less waiting time when you log on and between games. 4. Quality of game a bit lower unfortunately. 5. All testing, not just getting ratings, is accelerated. 6. 5 minutes not a major change. We will probabably soon have a 19x19 server too, in which case I would not favor such a fast time control. I would like to get opinions on what it should be for 19x19 or other board sizes - but I'm gravitating towards 15 minutes per side on 19x19. - Don > Sylvain _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
