I have an 83 LF with the ZF Hurth mated to a Westerbeke 27. I have zero issues with the engine and transmission. One thing I like about the Hurth is you can go from forward directly to reverse. The kids would forget to pause in neutral when they were younger.

We are 4 (2 fully grown teens) and are not liveaboards. We’re 2 on port / starboard, 1 in the Vberth and my wife usually claims the quarter berth when we cruise on Lake Ontario. If my kids bring a friend then they’ll pair up fore and aft. It’s gets tight though and we don’t cruise with 6 on board.

I’d move up to a 44 if we wanted to do longer term cruising, but she’s perfect for where we are and the Canadian sailing season. Costs go way up per foot at the slip and winter storage beyond 38 feet.

/John

On Jul 2, 2025, at 6:05 PM, ed vanderkruk via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


My wife sleeps in the v-berth and I sleep in the quarter berth. 

Some Landfalls have a ZF Hurth v-drive rather than a Paragon setup. A more compact setup and seems reliable and parts are still available ( it seems ).

Ed Vanderkruk 
Prime Interest LF38
Toronto, Canada 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2025, 5:03 p.m. Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
My wife and I are looking at one we like:
Questions:
1. Do 2 adults fit in the V-berth or aft berth better? I am 5-10 and she is 5-7.
2. Is the V-drive suspect? It doesn't seem to do anything odd right now, but if it dies can it be fixed or replaced?
Thanks!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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