And is that where you will be keeping and sailing the boat??
Ron
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Hi Ron,
Thanks for the words of caution. We are definitely balancing the size situation and appreciate a 40 will be over 5X larger than our 23 and would love the opportunity to sail on one prior to purchasing if that were an option.
I'm selling a 40' diesel motorhome that costs us an arm and a leg in repairs and maintenance (~$5000 in just the past few weeks) in exchange for this "money pit" but would be very interested in what your annual cost may have been. I've been building a spreadsheet to estimate annual costs especially now that we will be paying for a slip.
Thanks,
Jeff
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:11 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hello Jeffrey......first, welcome to the list....most of us on the C&C list will keep our boats to the "end", unless we're upgrading to a larger C&C.
I own a 77' 38MKII, hull #125. I've owned Impromptu for 23 years....
Your decision to get into a big "old" boat needs careful assessment of your finances and the amount of work you are willing to do.....virtually none of us here don't work to keep our boats sailing like they were built...
You don't want to know how much money that chews up in 23 years...
BUT, IMPROMPTU LOOKS LIKE IT JUST CAME OUT OF THE MOLD YESTERDAY....
and sails way better than it did when it left Canada for Chicago in 1977.
My wife doesn't do wind, sun, and noise....
So this 38 MKII races....hard and well with a seasoned crew of 6.
I don't suggest you think about that until later when you have enough crew....
Speaking of crew.....are you planning to sail the 40 with only you and your wife???? Things are much bigger on a 40 than on an ODay 23.....the mast alone approaches twice the height.....
I would be glad to share some of the "annual base costs" for you to consider....
My opinion is that the 35 should be big enough for this next move....and cruisable in "nice" weather for two....
I'd be interested in some of the veteran C&C'ers opinion and what are some of the comparative issues of making this big jump.
Something to consider......the guy who designed my 38 and all of those 40's, and all of the rest of the good years C&C's drives a 34......think about that first....
Making a move away from the ODay is a no brainer.....just you and your wife sail a 40 first....with safety crew sitting by.
Again, welcome to this group.....we all love our C&C's.
Ron C.
IMPROMPTU
C&C 38MKIIC
1977....#125
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_______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayAllow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+ years but this will be our first adventure in something no-longer trailerable. I and my wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the perceived quality, performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the local market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it) but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four (and trucking and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs), we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats in MA/RI area. I'm not afraid of some small projects that can be carried out while we use it or in the offseason but not interested in a "project boat" that would need work to be safe before use.Now for the questions:We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard, and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a tall-rig/deep-keel. See the photos linked.1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain or a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood, loose inside the drain that I could move with a finger.2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat recently serviced.Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5' keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is better sailing performance. But, we might be forced into a less desirable marina or have a low tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going from the marina.Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and hull, what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks he is somewhat savvy.All polite thoughts welcomed.Best regards,Jeff
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