HI Ron,

We are from the Portsmouth, NH area but sail in Portland, ME. We intend to
keep the boat in Portland, ME.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:13 AM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jeff, did I miss where you are located??
> And is that where you will be keeping and sailing the boat??
> Ron
> rjcasci...@comcast.net
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> Sent: 2020-07-21 6:31:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions
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> Hi Ron,
>
> Thanks for the words of caution. We are definitely balancing the size
> situation and appreciate a 40 will be over 5X larger than our 23 and would
> love the opportunity to sail on one prior to purchasing if that were an
> option.
>
> I'm selling a 40' diesel motorhome that costs us an arm and a leg in
> repairs and maintenance (~$5000 in just the past few weeks) in exchange for
> this "money pit" but would be very interested in what your annual cost may
> have been. I've been building a spreadsheet to estimate annual costs
> especially now that we will be paying for a slip.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:11 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> Hello Jeffrey......first, welcome to the list....most of us on the C&C
>> list will keep our boats to the "end", unless we're upgrading to a larger
>> C&C.
>> I own a 77' 38MKII, hull #125. I've owned Impromptu for 23 years....
>> Your decision to get into a big "old" boat needs careful assessment of
>> your finances and the amount of work you are willing to do.....virtually
>> none of us here don't work to keep our boats sailing like they were built...
>> You don't want to know how much money that chews up in 23 years...
>> BUT, IMPROMPTU LOOKS LIKE IT JUST CAME OUT OF THE MOLD YESTERDAY....
>> and sails way better than it did when it left Canada for Chicago in 1977.
>> My wife doesn't do wind, sun, and noise....
>> So this 38 MKII races....hard and well with a seasoned crew of 6.
>> I don't suggest you think about that until later when you have enough
>> crew....
>> Speaking of crew.....are you planning to sail the 40 with only you and
>> your wife???? Things are much bigger on a 40 than on an ODay 23.....the
>> mast alone approaches twice the height.....
>> I would be glad to share some of the "annual base costs" for you to
>> consider....
>> My opinion is that the 35 should be big enough for this next move....and
>> cruisable in "nice" weather for two....
>> I'd be interested in some of the veteran C&C'ers opinion and what are
>> some of the comparative issues of making this big jump.
>> Something to consider......the guy who designed my 38 and all of those
>> 40's, and all of the rest of the good years C&C's drives a 34......think
>> about that first....
>> Making a move away from the ODay is a no brainer.....just you and your
>> wife sail a 40 first....with safety crew sitting by.
>> Again, welcome to this group.....we all love our C&C's.
>> Ron C.
>> IMPROMPTU
>> C&C 38MKIIC
>> 1977....#125
>>
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>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: bride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: 2020-07-20 5:38:36 PM
>> Subject: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions
>>
>> Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I
>> introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+
>> years but this will be our first adventure in something no-longer
>> trailerable.  I and my wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our
>> O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the
>> perceived quality, performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the
>> local market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it)
>> but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may
>> still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four (and trucking
>> and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs),
>> we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats in MA/RI  area. I'm not afraid
>> of some small projects that can be carried out while we use it or in the
>> offseason but not interested in a "project boat"  that would need work to
>> be safe before use.
>>
>>
>> https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
>> https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/
>>
>> Now for the questions:
>>
>> We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw
>> in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard,
>> and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a
>> tall-rig/deep-keel.  See the photos linked.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8
>>
>> 1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain
>> or a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood,
>> loose inside the drain that I could move with a finger.
>> 2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that
>> I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?
>> 3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or
>> expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat
>> recently serviced.
>>
>> Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log
>> sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the
>> description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.
>>
>> We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are
>> targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5'
>> keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is
>> better sailing performance. But, we might be forced into a less
>> desirable marina or have a low tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going
>> from the marina.
>>
>> Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation
>> on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and
>> hull, what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks
>> he is somewhat savvy.
>>
>> All polite thoughts welcomed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jeff
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