Jeff,
A 40' is a big boat. I own a 35' and have sailed and cruised 40' and
38' C&Cs. Unless the boat is set up for two you will be spending some
money so it will be manageable by two. Because I sail on Narragansett
Bay the wind (except mid Jul to mid Aug) comes in every afternoon at 12
to 15 kts which my wife finds to be too "tippy" for her liking. Thus, I
cruise with her aboard with only my rollerfurl (140%), main not used.
Because my boat was modified for SORC racing it has a short boom and
with main only is under powered and unbalanced.
I have done cruises from Long Island sound to Bar Harbor and use to live
in Harpswell ME, so am quite familiar with the ares you would most
likely. Biggest advice I can give you for ME is make sure you have a
good GPS system with a display that is visible from the helm - FOG is
prevalent. My 35' draws a little over 6' (again modified for racing)
and have found that almost all harbors and marinas are reachable except
the very ends of the ME inlets at low tide - aay-yup. I have had the
boat for 40 years and had nine kids grow up with her. The boat handles
six adults (racing), cruise a week comfortably with four adults or two
adults and a group of children (amount dependent on childs' sizes). The
boat was bought in Burlington VT and trucked to Narragansett Bay and
with a six foot draft did have low bridge restrictions.
My best advice is take your wife out on a sail on a similar sized C&C to
make sure she is comfortable with the power of these boats. Beneteaus,
Catalinas and Hunters do not count as similar! If the Admiral is not
happy on the boat, you will not be happy.
Don Kern
/Fireball/, C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI
On 7/20/2020 10:08 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
If draft is an issue (or might be a future issue depending on your
plans for cruising, etc.) I would consider the cb model.
I have a 36 XL/kcb (your 40 ft C&C is actually a kcb since the cb
retracts into a serious keel, unlike some cb boats that have boards
only or very small keels) since I sail in the skinny NC sounds where
a 5 ft draft is often the rule in marinas, not the exception.
I Replace the pennant every 5 or so years and otherwise forgetaboutit!.
Upwind, board down, it will point with or better than any others and
downwind, board up, it will get up and go! OTOH, it likely has a
weighted board which probably weighs over 1000 lbs. Unless you are
racing, grinding the board up is not an easy job—I use a Lewmar 30
with 3:1 purchase AND my strongest crew to bring her up. Of course, as
some have noted, it is a simple matter to pin it up permantly.
Of course the kcb won’t be as fast as a deep keel of the same model
(lots more wetted surface than a fin) but there probably isn’t any
harbor in NH/ME that you could not get into, even at low tide, with
the board up.
Welcome to the list!
Charlie Nelson
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom
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On Monday, July 20, 2020, Jeffrey Brideau via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before
I introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small
craft for 35+ years but this will be our first adventure in
something no-longer trailerable. I and my wife are shopping for
an upgrade in size from our O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the
C&C line of boats given our budget, the perceived quality,
performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the local
market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it)
but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they
may still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four
(and trucking and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast
adds a lot of costs), we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats
in MA/RI area. I'm not afraid of some small projects that can be
carried out while we use it or in the offseason but not interested
in a "project boat" that would need work to be safe before use.
https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/
Now for the questions:
We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one
we saw in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are
both on the hard, and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard
version. The other is a tall-rig/deep-keel. See the photos linked.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8
1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge
drain or a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a
piece of wood, loose inside the drain that I could move with a
finger.
2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch
that I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard
pendant perhaps?
3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports
reasonable or expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests
it was somewhat recently serviced.
Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot
log sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being
listed in the description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.
We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are
targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to
accommodate a 7.5' keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts
is a huge advantage as is better sailing performance. But, we
might be forced into a less desirable marina or have a low
tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going from the marina.
Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step
situation on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged
cores in the deck and hull, what are the critical points of
interest to a new buyer that thinks he is somewhat savvy.
All polite thoughts welcomed.
Best regards,
Jeff
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