Mike

 

My 35 MKII has the a very similar setup to what you describe for your new
Frers 33.I have been single handed sailing from the beginning, no problem on
Alianna and in fact I like that bridgedeck / traveller layout.  I have a 7:1
advantage to ratchet block and cam cleat on my main sheet and I can trim
that as needed from behind the wheel or from either side aft of the wheel.
When single handed I may sacrifice a bit of performance because I lock the
traveller car at center line and only make adjsutments if the wind is really
fresh when I will lock the traveller controls so that the traveller car
falls off a few inches to leeward with every tack upwind.my clew outhaul is
also led to the cockpit so I set that for the wind of the day.Alianna holds
an upwind course very well once she is in the grove (about 32-33 apparent
over a wide wind strength range) without auto pilot (Bob Abbott will confirm
that) so I can trust to leave the wheel and go forward to tweak if needed
but when sailing single handed I seldom do that.  Maybe you would enjoy a
sail on a well rigged 35 MKII in some fresh St. Margaret's Bay air to see
how I have arranged the control lines.  I read somewhere that the raised
bridge deck design is better for keeping water out of the cabin but I expect
that would only matter in big storms on the ocean, the likes of which I have
never been in so what if anything that I don't like about the design is that
I feel it is more difficult to climb over for access below decks

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt,
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: August 26, 2014 9:26 AM
To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CNC 115 Shorthanded Sailers

 

Josh

 

What is the cockpit layout of the 37+ in terms of winch placement, traveler,
main controls, etc?

 

I am curious because having just gone from a Tiller boat with mid cockpit
traveler (toward aft of cockpit) and traveler and backstay and sheet all at
traveler with jib sheets/primaries at forward end of cockpit I am finding
the cruising boat layouts very awkward.  With the tiller near the traveler
the driver could also do main trim when sailing short handed and at very
least has the main trimmer immediately beside for communication.  Even on
the C&C 99 and 115 the traveler is just forward of wheel which gives driver
some access to main and very good communication with main trimmer.  On our
new cruising boat the traveler is on a bridge deck at companion way which
places the main trimmer forward of the jib trimmer and makes short handed
sailing and controlling the main much more awkward.  I still cannot fathom
why anyone would intentionally have a traveler forward ..

 

So when sailing single handed with a wheel and a forward traveler how on
earth can you tack a boat single handed?  With two people I could see it,
sort of.  With one it seems that it would take 5 minutes to get the boat
tacked and trimmed.

 

Mike

Frers 33 Persistence

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:17 AM
To: drobert...@comcast.net; C&C List
Subject: Re: Stus-List CNC 115 Shorthanded Sailers

 

I do not have particular expierience with "light air" boats but would have
generally said that the 37+ was one.  A rule of thumb I use is that boat
speed should be about half of apparent wind speed while closehulled, up to
14 knots.  Above that we should start working to flatten the boat but can
wait till 18-20.

My wife and I regularly sail with just the two of us.  I could single hand
the boat by using the auto pilot.  In that case the hardest part is getting
the main up because you have to stay into the wind for so long.  I do
regularly use auto to help tack by myself while she is relaxing or cooking.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

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