Gasoline is dangerous. So is *propane*, which many of you have. Be careful with 
both of them ;)
The A4 runs through about 3/4-1 gal/hr at cruise FYI.
I once listened to a speech about the safety of diesel from a Cabo Rico owner 
that stored his dinghy gas tank in the cabin!

Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4

Three years ago I was doing work up my mast about 100 ft away from a 40` wooden 
Chriscraft which exploded during refuelling.
It was shocking and there was no warning for those nearby. My point - it's more 
than rhetoric or something you only hear about. It can actually happen.

Second observation - a friend rebuilt his A4 last winter, reinstalled in the 
spring and found out his tranny was seized. R&R all over again.
The message - take the time to go over everything and rebuild/refurbish as 
necessary. You don't want to take it out twice. Of course same goes for any 
engine.

3rd - my 3GM will use about 1/4 tank of fuel motoring and motor sailing for
13 hours. How will that compare with gasoline - I think there's a big 
difference.

Not criticizing the idea of keeping an A4, just being aware of some risks and 
differences.

Cheers,

Steve Hood
S/V Diamond Girl
C&C 34
Lions Head ON



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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:26:16 GMT
From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
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Every time someone brings up the A4, the diesel suggestions start to flow.
LOL Okay the guy needs a head, he can buy a completely new aftermarket one from 
Moyer for $450 and be back on the water in, literally hours after receiving 
it...  OOORRR...  he can buy a used diesel for $2500 and replace that and all 
the fuel lines and fuel tank and filters and whatever else for a minimum of 
another probably $1500 or $2000 in parts and periferals like what prop, shaft, 
whatever, and install it all himself in, oh i don't know,
2 or 3 weekends...  Then there is all the adjustments and testing another 
weekend at least. What is the gain,  It's sail boat, isn't the idea to be 
sailing and not chugging along under power for days at a time?  I mean the 
diesel with most certainly add to the value of your boat, but probably no more 
than the cost to convert it.  The Atomic 4 is a great motor and, in my opinion, 
better suited for coastal cruising and day-sailing.  I guess if your going to 
do some passage making then, yes, the diesel would be a good decision.  Then 
there is all the rhetoric about unsafe gasoline in your boat and fuel 
consumption.  Of course there is truth to those statements but, how many boats 
do we hear about exploding every year?  Fuel consumption?  again, if your 
passage making, but if you're just using it to get in and out harbors or to 
motor home for a few hours when there is no wind, I really don't see the 
benefit.  You can get gas at far more marinas than diesel too...  Besides, they 
don't sti
 nk and they're quieter than a diesel! End of rant,  Sorry I couldn't stop 
myself...  LOL Go A4!!!  Danny!! P.S.  Just for full disclosure,  My brand new 
A4 from Moyer STILL doesn't run the way I think it should...

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:41:43 -0400


 
 
OK Joe, same for the Universal M4-30&hellip;I got one in my 35 MKII and it fits 
well in the space with no apparent mods to what it sits on&hellip;it is also 
basically a Kubota engine I believe
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe
 Sent: January 29, 2014 10:11 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
 
Nothing is an *exact* drop in, but Beta Marine has IMHO the best &ldquo;almost 
an A4&rdquo; diesels. They are based on Kubota blocks.
I lucked out and got a very nice A4 that had been rebuilt as a project by an 
engineering officer for $1500 on Craigslist. I bought it within about 45 
minutes of the ad going up.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:08 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
 
Josh
 
If so, I believe the Universal M4-30 is a drop in replacement for the A4 on a 
35 MKII.  I know the previous owner of my 35 MKII after several (4) 
disappointments with A4 replacement engines or heads took the plunge and so I 
ended up getting a 35MKII with a diesel already installed and that little
4 cylinder has lots of power for the boat and runs quiet and smooth as 
silk&hellip;he also changed to the H5 Autoprop when he installed the 
diesel&hellip;that&rsquo;s a really good combo&hellip;It does require a 
significant expense to do the job, but why not, especially if ones intends to 
keep the boat, you never regret having a could auxiliary propulsion system 
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley
 Sent: January 29, 2014 8:14 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
 
I know he's looking for an Atomic 4 but I thought he might find value in 
converting to diesel.
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=221361267650&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=131102768897&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 Solomons, MD
On Jan 28, 2014 5:57 PM, "Aaron Rouhi" <admiralmag...@outlook.com> wrote:
My good friend just lost his Atomic 4 on a 35-2 (cracked head and other major 
issues). He's looking for another Atomic 4 as a replacement. Any leads is 
greatly appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
Aaron R.
1979 30-MK1
Annapolis, MD

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