Gasoline is dangerous. So is *propane*, which many of you have. Be careful with both of them ;) The A4 runs through about 3/4-1 gal/hr at cruise FYI. I once listened to a speech about the safety of diesel from a Cabo Rico owner that stored his dinghy gas tank in the cabin!
Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSteveH Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Three years ago I was doing work up my mast about 100 ft away from a 40` wooden Chriscraft which exploded during refuelling. It was shocking and there was no warning for those nearby. My point - it's more than rhetoric or something you only hear about. It can actually happen. Second observation - a friend rebuilt his A4 last winter, reinstalled in the spring and found out his tranny was seized. R&R all over again. The message - take the time to go over everything and rebuild/refurbish as necessary. You don't want to take it out twice. Of course same goes for any engine. 3rd - my 3GM will use about 1/4 tank of fuel motoring and motor sailing for 13 hours. How will that compare with gasoline - I think there's a big difference. Not criticizing the idea of keeping an A4, just being aware of some risks and differences. Cheers, Steve Hood S/V Diamond Girl C&C 34 Lions Head ON ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:26:16 GMT From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Message-ID: <20140129.102616.2156...@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Every time someone brings up the A4, the diesel suggestions start to flow. LOL Okay the guy needs a head, he can buy a completely new aftermarket one from Moyer for $450 and be back on the water in, literally hours after receiving it... OOORRR... he can buy a used diesel for $2500 and replace that and all the fuel lines and fuel tank and filters and whatever else for a minimum of another probably $1500 or $2000 in parts and periferals like what prop, shaft, whatever, and install it all himself in, oh i don't know, 2 or 3 weekends... Then there is all the adjustments and testing another weekend at least. What is the gain, It's sail boat, isn't the idea to be sailing and not chugging along under power for days at a time? I mean the diesel with most certainly add to the value of your boat, but probably no more than the cost to convert it. The Atomic 4 is a great motor and, in my opinion, better suited for coastal cruising and day-sailing. I guess if your going to do some passage making then, yes, the diesel would be a good decision. Then there is all the rhetoric about unsafe gasoline in your boat and fuel consumption. Of course there is truth to those statements but, how many boats do we hear about exploding every year? Fuel consumption? again, if your passage making, but if you're just using it to get in and out harbors or to motor home for a few hours when there is no wind, I really don't see the benefit. You can get gas at far more marinas than diesel too... Besides, they don't sti nk and they're quieter than a diesel! End of rant, Sorry I couldn't stop myself... LOL Go A4!!! Danny!! P.S. Just for full disclosure, My brand new A4 from Moyer STILL doesn't run the way I think it should... ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:41:43 -0400 OK Joe, same for the Universal M4-30…I got one in my 35 MKII and it fits well in the space with no apparent mods to what it sits on…it is also basically a Kubota engine I believe From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: January 29, 2014 10:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Nothing is an *exact* drop in, but Beta Marine has IMHO the best “almost an A4” diesels. They are based on Kubota blocks. I lucked out and got a very nice A4 that had been rebuilt as a project by an engineering officer for $1500 on Craigslist. I bought it within about 45 minutes of the ad going up. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:08 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 Josh If so, I believe the Universal M4-30 is a drop in replacement for the A4 on a 35 MKII. I know the previous owner of my 35 MKII after several (4) disappointments with A4 replacement engines or heads took the plunge and so I ended up getting a 35MKII with a diesel already installed and that little 4 cylinder has lots of power for the boat and runs quiet and smooth as silk…he also changed to the H5 Autoprop when he installed the diesel…that’s a really good combo…It does require a significant expense to do the job, but why not, especially if ones intends to keep the boat, you never regret having a could auxiliary propulsion system From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: January 29, 2014 8:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 I know he's looking for an Atomic 4 but I thought he might find value in converting to diesel. http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=221361267650&globalID=EB AY-MOTOR http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=131102768897&globalID=EB AY-MOTOR Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk Solomons, MD On Jan 28, 2014 5:57 PM, "Aaron Rouhi" <admiralmag...@outlook.com> wrote: My good friend just lost his Atomic 4 on a 35-2 (cracked head and other major issues). He's looking for another Atomic 4 as a replacement. Any leads is greatly appreciated. Cheers, Aaron R. 1979 30-MK1 Annapolis, MD _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140129/23 f97539/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
