I have both, diesel in the Yanmar and gas in the dinghy. I don't understand
the fuss about the safety of diesel - yes it can go boom! but what is the
percentage of all those boats out there which are gas.... 75, 80, 90? All
those speed boats and such. That would explain why there are so many gas
accidents, particularly how some of the gassers treat their boats.
The smoothness of a four cylinder anything is much better (if you have to
motor) than the two cylinder vibrator I have.
I don't go very far, so cannot comment on the economies of either - I do
have to fill up annually.
If the situation were to present itself, I would investigate the economy of
repair vs. replace (counting all the other stuff besides the engine) verses
the expected life and resale value.
Personally, I would consider electric.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Gasoline is dangerous. So is *propane*, which many of you have. Be careful
with both of them ;)
The A4 runs through about 3/4-1 gal/hr at cruise FYI.
I once listened to a speech about the safety of diesel from a Cabo Rico
owner that stored his dinghy gas tank in the cabin!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
OldSteveH
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Three years ago I was doing work up my mast about 100 ft away from a 40`
wooden Chriscraft which exploded during refuelling.
It was shocking and there was no warning for those nearby. My point - it's
more than rhetoric or something you only hear about. It can actually
happen.
Second observation - a friend rebuilt his A4 last winter, reinstalled in
the spring and found out his tranny was seized. R&R all over again.
The message - take the time to go over everything and rebuild/refurbish as
necessary. You don't want to take it out twice. Of course same goes for
any engine.
3rd - my 3GM will use about 1/4 tank of fuel motoring and motor sailing
for
13 hours. How will that compare with gasoline - I think there's a big
difference.
Not criticizing the idea of keeping an A4, just being aware of some risks
and differences.
Cheers,
Steve Hood
S/V Diamond Girl
C&C 34
Lions Head ON
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:26:16 GMT
From: "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Message-ID: <20140129.102616.2156...@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
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Every time someone brings up the A4, the diesel suggestions start to flow.
LOL Okay the guy needs a head, he can buy a completely new aftermarket one
from Moyer for $450 and be back on the water in, literally hours after
receiving it... OOORRR... he can buy a used diesel for $2500 and replace
that and all the fuel lines and fuel tank and filters and whatever else
for a minimum of another probably $1500 or $2000 in parts and periferals
like what prop, shaft, whatever, and install it all himself in, oh i don't
know,
2 or 3 weekends... Then there is all the adjustments and testing another
weekend at least. What is the gain, It's sail boat, isn't the idea to be
sailing and not chugging along under power for days at a time? I mean the
diesel with most certainly add to the value of your boat, but probably no
more than the cost to convert it. The Atomic 4 is a great motor and, in
my opinion, better suited for coastal cruising and day-sailing. I guess
if your going to do some passage making then, yes, the diesel would be a
good decision. Then there is all the rhetoric about unsafe gasoline in
your boat and fuel consumption. Of course there is truth to those
statements but, how many boats do we hear about exploding every year?
Fuel consumption? again, if your passage making, but if you're just using
it to get in and out harbors or to motor home for a few hours when there
is no wind, I really don't see the benefit. You can get gas at far more
marinas than diesel too... Besides, they don't stink and they're quieter
than a diesel! End of rant, Sorry I couldn't stop myself... LOL Go A4!!!
Danny!! P.S. Just for full disclosure, My brand new A4 from Moyer STILL
doesn't run the way I think it should...
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:41:43 -0400
OK Joe, same for the Universal M4-30…I got one in my 35 MKII and it
fits well in the space with no apparent mods to what it sits on…it
is also basically a Kubota engine I believe
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della
Barba, Joe
Sent: January 29, 2014 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Nothing is an *exact* drop in, but Beta Marine has IMHO the best
“almost an A4” diesels. They are based on Kubota blocks.
I lucked out and got a very nice A4 that had been rebuilt as a project by
an engineering officer for $1500 on Craigslist. I bought it within about
45 minutes of the ad going up.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
Josh
If so, I believe the Universal M4-30 is a drop in replacement for the A4
on a 35 MKII. I know the previous owner of my 35 MKII after several (4)
disappointments with A4 replacement engines or heads took the plunge and
so I ended up getting a 35MKII with a diesel already installed and that
little
4 cylinder has lots of power for the boat and runs quiet and smooth as
silk…he also changed to the H5 Autoprop when he installed the
diesel…that’s a really good combo…It does require a
significant expense to do the job, but why not, especially if ones intends
to keep the boat, you never regret having a could auxiliary propulsion
system
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley
Sent: January 29, 2014 8:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Atomic 4
I know he's looking for an Atomic 4 but I thought he might find value in
converting to diesel.
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=221361267650&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=131102768897&globalID=EB
AY-MOTOR
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
Solomons, MD
On Jan 28, 2014 5:57 PM, "Aaron Rouhi" <admiralmag...@outlook.com> wrote:
My good friend just lost his Atomic 4 on a 35-2 (cracked head and other
major issues). He's looking for another Atomic 4 as a replacement. Any
leads is greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Aaron R.
1979 30-MK1
Annapolis, MD
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