I owned a C&C 30 mk 1 for about 13 years, and raced her from about 1973 to
1986. I also found that it was a very stiff boat and rarely had to reef and
only occasionally had to fly a # 2 headsail.
In those days, we all raced with a 170% genoa, since the boats were designed
for the CCA rule, and PHRF had not yet dictated 155 % for the norm. Later I
downsized to the 155%, and got the appropriate rating improvement.
Two things that have not been mentioned, that will affect the weather helm are:
If your 30 MK 1 has a wheel instead of a tiller, it will have more weather
helm, due to the extra weight in the stern.
The rig was very stiff, but I managed to put some pre-bend in the rig, by:
moving the mast step aft (inside the cabin) , and shiming the mast forward at
the deck partners,and cranking on the backstay. The net effect was to bend the
mast a little bit, and move the center of effort forward.
Typically the helm was well balanced over a wide range of wind speeds.
Just some thoughts from and old 30 MK 1 owner.
Don Wagner
Red Baron
C&C 30 MK1
1973 hull # 100
Now owner of:
Der Baron
C&C 41 CB
1986 hull # 93
From: Ronald B. Frerker
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
I seem to be in the slot Curtis describes. I've never reefed under 20kt.
Ron
Wild Cheri
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:09 AM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
yea i'm with Ddwight on this one,
My C&C30 mk1 # 675 loves 11 thru17 knots.
I dont start thinking of a reef till i'm over 17 knots. I usley drop
down to the working 115% first. If needed I will put the 1st Reef in
around 18-22 knots.
I have hade some uncontroled steering falling off the wind when
tacking. that was my fault. not the boat.
1981 C&C 30 MK1 #675
Beaufort, Sc.
On 11/26/13, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your
> mast
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Rouhi
> Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
> MK1 is stiff for sure but I just wish I had less weather helm. I generally
> reef in anything above 10 knots...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aaron R.
>
> Admiral Maggie,
>
> 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
>
> Annapolis, MD
>
>
>
> _____
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:46:07 -0400
> From: dwight...@gmail.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
> The 30 MKI is just a much stiffer boat than the 30 MKII; see here:
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm
>
> I believe that makes a huge difference in how these 2 very different C&C 30
> designs perform going to weather, I believe this definitely has an effect
> on
> heel angle and propensity to round up...I would expect the 30 MKII to
> outperform the 30 MKI in light air but in heavier air I would expect the
> MKI
> to outperform the MKII, even given that in most areas the MKII has a higher
> rated speed potential and I believ that is due to the relative stiffnesses
> of the boats...here on St. Margaret's Bay where we have mostly fresher
> afternoon breezes the MKI rules
>
>
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> Alianna
> C&C 35 MKII
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Around the late 70's and early eighties the 20's and 39's were all getting
> new, deeper rudders. The swept back keels didn't / don't help.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 animated_favicon1
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight
> veinot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:48 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
> I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other
> advantages
>
>
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> Alianna
> C&C 35 MKII
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Robert Gallagher <trys...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather
> helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never. I could bury the rail deep
> and just keep plowing along.
> My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much
> sail
> up and not enough tension on the backstay. Too much heel and it gets
> scary.
>
> All that being said im still learning on my MKII
>
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