Although I hate to mention it, I have seen people having a huge amount of trouble with weather helm because their boom was held on center by a backstay-mounted topping lift, amongst other things. To the original poster: I don't mean to sound out of line here, but have you had an experienced sailor out with you to give you some feedback on your setup?
On 29 November 2013 12:21, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good point about sails changing the feel, Gary. A blown out main or jib, > with the max draft at the battens will move the apparent center of effort > way aft. > On the other hand, my crew is so tough, they don't even know how to reef! > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > +401 965-5260 > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 14:16, "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> > wrote: > > > I'm with Curtis on this one. I seldom reef because we are mostly in > light air. I drop from the 155 to the 140 when there are full whitecaps > (15?) and then reef at about 20. Don't have a second reef, so if it is > blowing harder than low 20's, I go to the working jib. > > > > My working jib is probably original to the boat (1980) - when I bought > her, it was very new feeling (crinkly) and seldom gets out of the > bag.....it is a Hood, which I understand was original equipment. The two > PO's were up a river 10 miles from the Bay, so I think there was a fair > amount of light air sailing - and motoring. > > > > There's something amiss if you have to reef at 10 knots - either your > sails are so bagged out that the boat is falling over or the mast is set > incorrectly. The 30-1 is a stout craft.... it takes a lot of breeze to get > it squirrely enough that I am worried about rounding up. > > > > Gary > > 30-1 # 593 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> > > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:08 AM > > Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm > > > > > > yea i'm with Ddwight on this one, > > My C&C30 mk1 # 675 loves 11 thru17 knots. > > I dont start thinking of a reef till i'm over 17 knots. I usley drop > > down to the working 115% first. If needed I will put the 1st Reef in > > around 18-22 knots. > > I have hade some uncontroled steering falling off the wind when > > tacking. that was my fault. not the boat. > > > > 1981 C&C 30 MK1 #675 > > > > Beaufort, Sc. > > > > > > > > On 11/26/13, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your > >> mast > >> > >> > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Aaron > >> Rouhi > >> Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM > >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm > >> > >> > >> > >> MK1 is stiff for sure but I just wish I had less weather helm. I > generally > >> reef in anything above 10 knots... > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Aaron R. > >> > >> Admiral Maggie, > >> > >> 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540 > >> > >> Annapolis, MD > >> > >> > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:46:07 -0400 > >> From: dwight...@gmail.com > >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm > >> > >> The 30 MKI is just a much stiffer boat than the 30 MKII; see here: > >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm > >> > >> I believe that makes a huge difference in how these 2 very different > C&C 30 > >> designs perform going to weather, I believe this definitely has an > effect > >> on > >> heel angle and propensity to round up...I would expect the 30 MKII to > >> outperform the 30 MKI in light air but in heavier air I would expect the > >> MKI > >> to outperform the MKII, even given that in most areas the MKII has a > higher > >> rated speed potential and I believ that is due to the relative > stiffnesses > >> of the boats...here on St. Margaret's Bay where we have mostly fresher > >> afternoon breezes the MKI rules > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dwight Veinot > >> > >> Alianna > >> C&C 35 MKII > >> > >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> > wrote: > >> > >> Around the late 70's and early eighties the 20's and 39's were all > getting > >> new, deeper rudders. The swept back keels didn't / don't help. > >> > >> > >> > >> Bill Coleman > >> > >> C&C 39 animated_favicon1 > >> > >> > >> > >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > dwight > >> veinot > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:48 PM > >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm > >> > >> > >> > >> I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other > >> advantages > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dwight Veinot > >> > >> Alianna > >> C&C 35 MKII > >> > >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Robert Gallagher <trys...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. > Weather > >> helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never. I could bury the rail > deep > >> and just keep plowing along. > >> My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much > >> sail > >> up and not enough tension on the backstay. Too much heel and it gets > >> scary. > >> > >> All that being said im still learning on my MKII > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ This List is provided by > >> the > >> C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> No virus found in this message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6368 - Release Date: > 11/26/13 > > > > > > -- > > “Sailors, with their built in sense of order, service and discipline, > > should really be running the world.” - Nicholas Monsarrat > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC
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