The difference may involve the definition of proper course. I have not read the book on the newest RRoS to see if any changes were made but IIRC at one time the leeward boat could go head to wind without regard to proper course before the start.
On a related RRoS starting issue: During a pursuit race (timed start based on ratings, slowest first), if a slower rated boat's assigned start time has passed but they have not crossed the starting line (light air, adverse current) which part of the RRoS applies as Calypso enters the start line area within 4 minutes of the assigned start time? Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video Martin, The rules apply as long as a boat is RACING. By definition, a boat is RACING from the 4-minute prep signal of her start until she has finished and her hull has cleared the finish line. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com<mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>> wrote: Alan, Does Dave Perry's 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and 14? It has been a while since I read Dave's last RRoS book but I recall something about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the starting gun. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat. As soon as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep clear. When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that the right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately touching the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation to keep clear. They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did not keep clear. See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of Sailing through 2016, page 96. In addition, the right-of-way boat must take the appropriate action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it appears that the give-way boat is not going to keep clear, after which she can protest the give-way boat. There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other boat, but it is prudent to do so. If Camelot had called to Blue to head up, or yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to keep the boats from colliding. If Blue couldn't control her direction, she could have called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, Camelot might have been able to fall off and avoid the crash. She then could have protested Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the Racing Rules of Sailing (Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule 14, Avoiding Contact), both boats should have been penalized by retiring from the race (Rule 44.1(b). Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
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