I beleive the question related to this:
Before the start gun, the leeward boat can go head to wind, after the start, he
can go only to close hauled.
Henry Reeve
Lone Star, LF38
Vancouver, BC
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"Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; ... then, I account it
high time to get to sea as soon as I can."
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From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:28:44 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video
Martin,
The rules apply as long as a boat is RACING. By definition, a boat is RACING
from the 4-minute prep signal of her start until she has finished and her hull
has cleared the finish line.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote:
Alan,
>
>Does Dave Perry’s 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between
>before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and 14?
>
>It has been a while since I read Dave’s last RRoS book but I recall something
>about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the starting gun.
>
>Martin
>Calypso
>1970 C&C 43
>Seattle
>
>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video
>
>Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat. As soon
>as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep clear.
>When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that the
>right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately touching
>the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation to keep
>clear. They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did not keep
>clear. See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of Sailing through
>2016, page 96. In addition, the right-of-way boat must take the appropriate
>action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it appears that the give-way
>boat is not going to keep clear, after which she can protest the give-way boat.
>
>There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other boat,
>but it is prudent to do so. If Camelot had called to Blue to head up, or
>yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to keep the
>boats from colliding. If Blue couldn't control her direction, she could have
>called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, Camelot might
>have been able to fall off and avoid the crash. She then could have protested
>Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the Racing Rules of Sailing
>(Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule 14, Avoiding Contact), both
>boats should have been penalized by retiring from the race (Rule 44.1(b).
>Alan Bergen
>C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>Rose City YC
>Portland, OR
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