Martin,

        The rules apply as long as a boat is RACING. By definition, a boat is 
RACING from the 4-minute prep signal of her start until she has finished and 
her hull has cleared the finish line. 


        
        All the best,

        Edd


        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 
        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website



On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>  
> Does Dave Perry’s 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between 
> before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and 
> 14?
>  
> It has been a while since I read Dave’s last RRoS book but I recall something 
> about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the starting gun.
>  
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1970 C&C 43
> Seattle
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video
>  
> Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat.  As soon 
> as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep clear.  
> When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that the 
> right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately 
> touching the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation to 
> keep clear.  They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did not 
> keep clear.  See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of Sailing 
> through 2016, page 96.  In addition, the right-of-way boat must take the 
> appropriate action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it appears that 
> the give-way boat is not going to keep clear, after which she can protest the 
> give-way boat.
> 
> There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other boat, 
> but it is prudent to do so.  If Camelot had called to Blue to head up, or 
> yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to keep the 
> boats from colliding.  If Blue couldn't control her direction, she could have 
> called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, Camelot might 
> have been able to fall off and avoid the crash.  She then could have 
> protested Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the Racing Rules of 
> Sailing (Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule 14, Avoiding 
> Contact), both boats should have been penalized by retiring from the race 
> (Rule 44.1(b).
> 
> Alan Bergen
> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>  
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