Sounds like your trophy winners will be determined by the math you use.OK if
everyone understands and accepts that.Spinnaker boats and non spinnaker
boats in the same race is about as bad as racing gets IMHO.might as well all
just go sailing and draw numbers for the trophies 

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Brass
Sent: February 28, 2013 2:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin

 

I help out with a  local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org   We are planning to do a couple of special
trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes
first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan to
have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta (with
sub classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want the
special awards to span both spin and non-spin.

 

NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups,  does not grant different
spin and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot
of the casual sailors presume a spinnaker.  

 

So we're thinking about creating an adjusted  "NON-SPIN" rating for the
boats in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively
fairly with the spin boats in the same special group.

 

I've been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11
seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a "non-spin" rating - regardless of
the size or type of boat. That doesn't sound like it would be fair to the
smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the
larger boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson's 36XL.

 

During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various
clubs and local groups calculate a "non-spin" rating that lets all boats
race in one class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% of
the normal rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think there
were other methods, too.

 

So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to
adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that
is racing non-spin?

 

Thanks for your input.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

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