Joel:

  Lines to outboard end of the pole would be a big help.  The other issue I
heard was with the plywood in the water the pole would twist.  A friend lost
his rudder in a Hawaii race.  He said the pole and plywood was
uncontrollable.  In later offshore races he used a metal framework that
mounted to the boat with pintals and goudgens.  The frame contained a
cassette that a rudder would slide into.  Trying to mount a rudder in a big
sea without the cassette was virtually impossible.

 

Fred

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Fred,

 

The ones I read about used lines attached to the trailing edge of the rudder
to turn the boat, with the spin pole essentially a vertical hinge lashed to
the backstay.  Does that seem any more feasible?

I can't imagine trying to use the short end of the pole as a tiller - there
is no leverage.

 

Joel

35/3

 

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Fred Hazzard <fredhazz...@spiritone.com>
wrote:

 

RE: Emergency rudder

Friends who have used  plywood attached to the spin pole say it was
virtually impossible to control in anything but flat water.  The lever arm
of the pole out the back of the boat would overwhelm the control lines to
the  winches.  The pole out the back of the boat had to be quite long to
reach the water.  That left a short part of the pole to secure to the
winches.   The boat would not go upwind and the following sea downwind
pushed the pole around.

The bigger the piece of plywood the harder it was to control.

 

Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Portland, Or

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:47 AM


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ISAF regs

 

After some research last night, it looks like there are two types of
emergency rudders.  One is a removable transom mount with a tiller.  The
other method is to attach a large piece of plywood or an old rudder to the
spinnaker pole with U bolts and lash the pole to the backstay.  The "rudder"
is controlled with lines running from its trailing edge to snatch blocks and
then to the winches.  

Old J24 rudders seems to be somewhat common on EBay.

 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We could have a one-design class if we get a few more 35/3s!  I'll work on
the rudder issue.  I've emailed my rigger already.

Joel

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> wrote:

Joel,

 

I've always had my eye on an Annapolis-Bermuda race.  I am game if you need
crew.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

"Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ISAF regs

 

If I could solve the rudder problem and get you, Dave and others to join the
crew I would!  

I need to find an old rudder off about a 30 footer and then design a
support.  

You in?

 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can we assume you've entered the race then Joel?

 

Tim

Mojito

C&C 35-3

301 541 8551 <tel:301%20541%208551> 


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