Barbara,

We were wondering what happened to you, Chip & Flight Risk. Miss  having 
guys to race against in the BRS. Oh well, take care and good luck in  
Charleston.
 
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2012 8:34:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
blhick...@yahoo.com writes:

Thanks  much for this great discussion. We have our '76 C&C 33 mkI on the 
hard in  Charleston SC right now for routine maintenance. Will definitely 
take a good  look at the rudder. 
Barbara Hickson Fellers
"Flight  Risk"


Sent from the Mars Rover. 

On Oct 20, 2012, at 12:50  AM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The rudder  stock on my 38 was bent during a hard grounding in a 
thunderstorm
> in  2004. Actually it was OK until TowBoat US pulled me over the shoal
>  instead of pulling me out the way I had come in. Insurance authorized  
the
> yard to heat and straighten the rudder shaft (BIG Mistake!) and  reglass 
the
> top of the rudder after the repair.
> 
>  
> Five years later, water had gotten into the top of the rudder and the  
shaft
> broke because of crevice corrosion. I lost the blade. The yard  (same one
> that did the first bad repair) had a rudder stock off a 38LF  that had 
lost
> the skins off the rudder blade. They had purchased a  38LF rudder from C&C
> Yachts (in the process discovering that there  were two different diameter
> rudder stocks on the 38LFs in the 70s)  Tartan C&C Yachts can build 
rudders
> for many of the older models  at a cost of $3800 according to the website.
> Call Alex Avery.  Unfortunately they have drawings for the Landfall but 
not
> the 38 mk1  & mk2.
> 
> I found 3 sources that had made aftermarket  C&C rudders. Competition
> Composites in Canada quoted CDN$2900  using the rudder stock I had 
purchased
> (+ $1600 to build a new rudder  stock). Phil's Foils are in Canada and 
make a
> lot of racing foils, and  quoted CDN$2250 using my rudder stock. Foss 
Foam in
> Florida was $2400  US including shipping, The first two cast foam on the
> rudder stock and  web, CNC machine the foil, and wrap the foam in
> glass/Kevlar/epoxy. I  think of it as building from the inside out.
> 
> Foss casts two  halves of the skin, sandwiches around the stock and web, 
and
> injects  foam. Then the joint is reinforced with Kevlar & epoxy. I think 
of
>  this as outside in.
> 
> There was some discussion I found on the  web that the outside in method
> might be less durable if water gets  into the foam and freezes over the
> winter, or if you have a dark  colored rudder in warm water and bright 
sun.
> Foss did suggest painting  the rudder a light color, but told me all the
> things they do to  prevent water intrusion and to reinforce the seam 
against
> expansion of  the foam.
> 
> I went with Foss because of a lower cost, less  hassles, and quicker
> delivery. So far I'm quite happy with the new  rudder.
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
>  Giannelia
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:56 PM
> To:  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Rudder  Re-build/replacement
> 
> Has anyone on the list replaced or  re-built their rudder?
> 
> ALEX GIANNELIA
> 
> CC  35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
> ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006
>  Toronto Ontario
> 
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