On Apr 3, 8:18 am, Jason Warner <jasoncwar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd be interested in seeing the ivy+ant solution. We use maven2 at
> work and there are obvious pros and cons. With clojure, part of the
> pain is initial setup and config. Maven2/ant+ivy might really help
> that. Post when you get a chance...am very interested.
>
> Thanks,
> jason
>
> On Apr 2, 8:56 pm, dysinger <dysin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Maven2 is atrocious for big Java projects. Lots of people have had
> > the same experience you mentioned. In fact the first few lines of the
> > readme on my clojure pom project on github says "Dont run away with
> > your hair on fire" :) Give it a try. It is really simple.
>
> > I think I'll give Ant + Ivy another run tonight. I truly am after the
> > best KISS dependency/package management solution and not trying to
> > push maven.
>
> > On Apr 2, 3:10 pm, Korny Sietsma <ko...@sietsma.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:39 AM, dysinger <dysin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > The Java world for good or bad has rallied
> > > > around maven repos. There are 10s of thousands of libs "up in there".
>
> > > While there are lots of Java / Maven users, there are also a lot who
> > > *don't*
> > > use it, and indeed many who actively avoid stuff that is locked in to
> > > Maven
> > > and it's associated complexity. It's popular, yes, but I'd debate that
> > > the
> > > Java world has "rallied around" maven...
>
> > > My workplace (200-ish developers) is mostly Java based, and we used to use
> > > Maven 1 for a few core projects, went through some pain trying to move
> > > them
> > > to Maven 2, gave up, and have been quite happy since then working with Ivy
> > > and Ant.
>
> > > I'm sure maven has a lot of benefits in many workplaces, and I'm sure it's
> > > more stable and reliable than it was when Maven 2 was brand new :-} But
> > > personally, I still get post-traumatic flashbacks whenever I see the words
> > > "simple" and "maven" in the same sentence :)
>
> > > - Korny
>
> > > --
> > > Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com
> > > "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part
> > > that wonders what the part that isn't thinking
> > > isn't thinking of"
I cringe and throw up a little inside everytime I hear maven.
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