Sorry, missed the crucial point :)  The maven *repository* I have no
problems with!  Even Maven itself, in appropriate environments.  I just
think the set of "appropriate" is much smaller than Maven fans seem to think
it is!

- Korny

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, dysinger <dysin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I said that the java world has rallied around maven _repos_.
>
> Ivy uses maven repos. So your 200 developers _have_ in fact embraced
> maven repos like most people. It is the only package repository game
> in town. :)
>
> I think Ant + Ivy is a very nice solution for Java. If there was a DRY
> way to adapt it to multi-module clojure I would try that too.  I think
> "Ties" is probably closure to what I want though, if it were brought
> up to date.
>
> On Apr 2, 3:10 pm, Korny Sietsma <ko...@sietsma.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:39 AM, dysinger <dysin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The Java world for good or bad has rallied
> > > around maven repos.  There are 10s of thousands of libs "up in there".
> >
> > While there are lots of Java / Maven users, there are also a lot who
> *don't*
> > use it, and indeed many who actively avoid stuff that is locked in to
> Maven
> > and it's associated complexity.  It's popular, yes, but I'd debate that
> the
> > Java world has "rallied around" maven...
> >
> > My workplace (200-ish developers) is mostly Java based, and we used to
> use
> > Maven 1 for a few core projects, went through some pain trying to move
> them
> > to Maven 2, gave up, and have been quite happy since then working with
> Ivy
> > and Ant.
> >
> > I'm sure maven has a lot of benefits in many workplaces, and I'm sure
> it's
> > more stable and reliable than it was when Maven 2 was brand new :-}  But
> > personally, I still get post-traumatic flashbacks whenever I see the
> words
> > "simple" and "maven" in the same sentence :)
> >
> > - Korny
> >
> > --
> > Kornelis Sietsma  korny at my surname dot com
> > "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part
> > that wonders what the part that isn't thinking
> > isn't thinking of"
> >
>


-- 
Kornelis Sietsma  korny at my surname dot com
"Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part
that wonders what the part that isn't thinking
isn't thinking of"

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