On Sunday 21 March 2004 9:04 pm, Erik Corry wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 08:43:19PM +0000, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Sunday 21 March 2004 6:37 pm, Erik Corry wrote:
> > > You need to distinguish between Worms and Viruses.  Worms are just
> > > propagating themselves.  There's never any harm in dropping a worm
> > > since they are not part of a project or a correspondance.
> > >
> > > Viruses on the other hand attach to otherwise legitimate files and
> > > of course they should be bounced.
> >
> > I disagree.   Certainly, many years ago, this was true of viruses, but
> > today?
>
> It is the definition of a virus that it attaches itself to other files.
>
> > I don't think so.
> >
> > What is the most recent virus you can think of which attached itself to
> > otherwise legitimate files, rather than being the entire content of
> > whatever it is the victim receives?
>
> For example most Word Macro viruses are real viruses.  To pick a random
> example, Clamav recently added a sig for Macro.Word97.Onex which does not
> mail itself anywhere.

That may be a recent addition to ClamAV's signatures, but it's hardly a recent 
virus (about 4 years old, I think?)

> Did you read what I wrote regarding Worms and Viruses?  You seem to
> be talking about worms.  Viruses are not dead, though there are worm/virus
> hybrids.

Ah, so you would say that NetSky/SomeFool/Bagle/Gibe/Swen are all worms, not 
viruses then?

In that case, I would agree with you - worms can safely be dropped without 
bouncing - and I think you will almost never see a real virus.

Regards,

Antony.

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