Dear Gourab,

Sorry for the delayed response, I missed your message earlier.

Can you grow the protein crystals easily (do you have lots of them)?

Is your ligand soluble in PEG, MPD, or Solutol?

Often, you can exchange the crystal solution without destroying the crystal.  But, you have to match the water activity of the original growth solution with the new solution.  This way you could get your ligand into one of these non-salt solutions and then move a crystal from your grow solution into the new solution with your ligand.  This would expose your crystal to the ligand.

Obviously, you will probably burn through several crystals to see what PEG, MPD, of Solutol concentration your crystals will tolerate.  To some degree, this is no different than hunting for the best cryo-condition.  Thus, I would see which solution your ligand prefers first, so you can limit your crystal trials.

I worked on an enzyme that required calcium for activity, but we could only grow the crystals in ammonium sulfate.  I was able to exchange the crystal growth solution for a PEG solution.  The protein has some affinity for the sulfate ions, so the exchange needed to be done over a ~4 hour period of time.  If I went faster, the sulfate would remain in the crystal channels and would precipitate when exposed to calcium.  It was tedious working this out, but it was essential for everything else that came later.

Steven Herron [sherron_...@yahoo.com]


On 4/23/2021 11:40 PM, Gourab Basu Choudhury wrote:
I tried sokaing ,high concentration of DMSO is effecting crystal, so I tried other contidtion where 10%DMSO is there. Got 1.9 A data with protein co crystalization with 10mM ligand. But ligand occupancy is not visble.  I got the KD value from ITC, with reverse titration. With 10uM ligand in cell and 150uM protein in syringe. .

Can anybody suggest some views.please feel free to share your experiences.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 10:49 AM Peat, Tom (Manufacturing, Parkville) <tom.p...@csiro.au> wrote:

    Hello Gourab,

    DMSO is not the only possible solvent- there are others to try.
    I don't want to sound negative, but 40 micromolar is not a very
    tight binding compound. It would also depend on how that binding
    constant was measured- how did someone get enough in solution to
    measure that?
    Best of luck, tom

    Tom Peat, PhD
    Proteins Group
    Biomedical Program, CSIRO
    343 Royal Parade
    Parkville, VIC, 3052
    +613 9662 7304
    +614 57 539 419
    tom.p...@csiro.au

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    *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Co crystalization with less soluble ligand.
    Hello everyone,
    I am finding it difficult for getting a ligand density inside the
    protein as the ligand is very much insoluble. It's only soluble in
    100% DMSO. I tried for co crystalization. Kd value of the ligand
    is near 40um. Any suggestion what to do?

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