Kevin wrote- >>> The American developers here are probably the most unsocial people >>>in IT.
Jan wrote- >This may be the case, but I do not believe you are correct when you >say "unsocial," maybe just social in a different way than many who >studied Business instead of Computer Science. But do you believe that >these people should not be able to make a good living? Is it your >opinion that only ~Social~ people should be allowed into the middle, >or upper middle class? It's true, many of the Computer Scientists I >know who grew up in the US, and who enjoy Software Engineering, have >an alternative social ability. Does that mean that they should only >be allowed to work for McDonalds wages? This group of people have >found a carrier that affords them the ability to participate in the >American Dream, but form the sound of it, you would have them all >unemployed, and their jobs all sent over seas to people who will >treat you as if you are their master, and work for slave wages. This >is wrong on so many levels, I do not even know where to begin. There is a "total" skill set in any job. How/what "social" skills someone has may only be limiting when they are contrary to what needs to be done to complete the job (frex within the corporate "customer service" requirements). In some ways the type of living you want to make is dictated by a match between what you want to do (or do) and the expectations of those you work for. Frex, if you like animals, but don't have "great" (define as you want, merely for illustrative purposes) social skills, then working with the animals behind the scenes may be a better match than that of an intake person/vet in a local practice. No one is forcing anyone to work at McDonalds, there are many other professions that have suffered cycles of change. Perhaps it is simplistic (since computer stuff is waaaaaay slow to stick in my brain), but I seem to recall alot of previous posts on how computer people can never stop learning, it is a "trap" in many professions to rest on your laurels. Many in health professions have transferred their skills to non-patient care as conditions changed, jobs were cut back, etc. I like the example of toy makers who saw their business go overseas, probably for many of us it is one of the first concrete examples of outsourcing we can practically remember. No one is saying others in other countries to work for slave wages, saving money is a corporate strategy that happens probably more than it doesn't (examples in the next post). Re: "not knowing where to start"- sometimes we all are too close to something, it may be easier for me to see since in my profession, the changes, fear, cut backs and job losses, were at their worst more than 5 years ago and things are slowly turning around. Dee _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
