----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom


> At 02:14 PM 3/5/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
> >I'm for free trade as long as the environment and labor practices
are
> >taken into account (I agree with most of what Erik had to say).
However,
> >I do agree somewhat with Jan that U.S. corporations should have
some
> >loyalty to the country that fostered them and the workers that
helped make
> >them what they are.  I don't expect them to have that loyalty
however
> >because the corporate conscience is almost wholly dependant upon
the
> >people that are in charge and all to often the rich and powerful
believe
> >themselves to be above the law.  Loyalty is an emotion that seldom
> >registers.
>
> Nevertheless, if by "loyalty" you mean keeping their goods and
services
> more expensive than those of their competitors, I think that it is
very
> unreasonable to expect that of anybody.
>

Conversely, do you see companies actually lowering prices for goods or
services after outsourcing or offshoring.

I don't see savings being passed on to consumers so much as being
shared with investors. There is competition for investors just as much
as there is for customers.
I could be wrong in this, but most of the price lowering I see is
through retailers and wholesalers. Are they in position to use
outsourcing and offshoring the way manufacturers are?


xponent
Money Matters Maru
rob


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