--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "ritu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 'Tis just that I can't see *how* India is supposed to be blamed 
for this
> and thus, I will ask when someone says that in front of me.

The logic is that americans workers tax dollors, hard work building 
american corporations, and the political environemnt in which those 
corporations were able to exist, have payed for job expansion in 
India, therefore the Indian people owe the american worker 
compensation back.

If a theif comes and steals your car and gives it to me,  when all 
is discovered I would have to give the car back. Now, If I knew the 
car was stolen, and I sell it's parts, then I would be a criminal.

You have to understand that what is going on right now is fostering 
a very negative emotional respons. 

I am not justifying that emotional response, only pointing it out, 
and asking what should be done about it.

>From the out of work american's perspective Indea is steeling our 
Jobs, and they know it. I have heard representatives from Indean 
companies say and I quoate, "I can hve 200 developers on this 
toomarow for the price of one of your workers here. You can get rid 
yourself of these expensive development staff emediatly."

How can we not hear this and not get angry and feel like we are 
being robbed?

You see, it's not just about rational logic, it's also about 
irational logic, the kind that fosters the justification of raceism 
and nationalism. The kind that can create an environment ripe with 
anger and dispare.

Americans, are a ficle people, you see one face now, the one giving, 
but you might have to deal with the other face eventualy, then one 
that has had their way of life taken away.

What is going on right now is drasticaly shifting the political 
opinions of those being affected. Outside of work, in the bars and 
in the resturants, there is also raceism growing. 

Consider that it takes many CS majors 5 years (not 4) to get a BS. 
That is not 5 years of frat parties and spring breaks, it's 5 years 
of very intense long hours which are physicaly demenishing. Nearly 
very CS course I took ended with less than 10% of the students who 
started, and not all at the end passed. Meanwhile the buisnes majors 
drank and caroused and didn't have to work on projects over spring 
break. They took easy courses which allowed them time to go to the 
gym and party every night. Many of these so-clled students were the 
same ones droping out of CS classes. Now they have conspired with 
Indea to rob the American Computer Scientist of all their hard work, 
all the Software Companies we built with 16 hour days while others 
were working 8, all of the life postponements and dedication, and 
now, Indea and some frat-boy fat cats come and steel it, say thank 
you very much for the tax breaks, thank you vey much for doing all 
the hard work, thank you very much for putting your lives on hold, 
but we are now going to take that and give you nothing in return.

Do you see, we are breading classism...but then I guess that is 
nothing to Indea, where classism is common place. 

Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe this will all pass, but right now, I m 
hearing strong raceism from those who use to be liberal, I'm being 
told not to bring my indian friends along, I am seeing fewer tables 
with Indeans and Americans eating together, Indean resturants that 
are empty of all but Indean patrons. I'm hearing reports of Indean 
kids getting beat up by other American kids who's parent are out of 
work. It's getting starting to get ugly. 

Am I angry? well, yes, but I still have a job. Do I think this 
raceism is right? No. Do I think that the Indean people owe the 
american worker, ...the guy telling my boss she can fire me and all 
my associates and replace us with some Indean sweat shop, yes, he 
owes the american worker, but the average Indean, No. Am I going to 
vote Republican in the next election. Hardly. I tensions rose 
between Indea and Pakistan would I be infavor of helping indea out. 
Doubt it.



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