Jan Coffey wrote:

> You can't see the connection? I did say it wasn't out concern ~until~ 
> it started to negativly effect our citizens. 

I see the connection, I have long seen it, but I am not sure if you
appreciate the fact that the connection isn't one way. Your statements
to Jon and me certainly gave that impression.

> You are so clearly 
> streatching to try and make my statments apear hypocritical. You have 
> left the relm of arguing the points and started arguing the person.
> 
> Even those who agree with your arguments on the points (which is 
> probablky most everyone on this list) and those who at first glance 
> thought it hypocritical, do, if they were honest with themselves, 
> realize that it isn't and that you are no-longer arguing points, but 
> people.

Ah, but in the mail before last [mine, that is], I clearly stated that I
am not arguing the points. I am not trying to argue people either - I am
just trying to understand where you are coming from.

> My opinions Ritu are not always consistent, (no ones are) but in this 
> case they are in fact. Your countries issues of which I spoke, were 
> not at all the concern of any American citizen, or should I say, 
> should not be IMO. However, since the recent occurences of which we 
> disscuss, they have become our issue. Why? becouse we should have two 
> choices, a totaly free and open trade (including employment) or none. 
> My opinoin again, and you are free to disagree, but that doesn't make 
> it an invalid opinion.
> 
> So what does each of these mean? The free market version means that 
> workers should have the opertunity to move to where the jobs are, 
> that each person should be capable of attempting the same employment 
> and living in the same locations as to allow that employement to give 
> them equal opertunity. That would mean that an American should be 
> afforded equal opertunity to live and work in India and also be 
> afforded the same protection under the law that an american is 
> accustomed to.
> 
> The other option means an American company can not employ a non-
> American unless there are no qualified americans willing to take the 
> job for reasonable compensation.
> 
> Likewise of course in reverse. There are I am sure protections that 
> Indians might want living in the US that they do recive in Indea, and 
> that no Indian should be unemployed if an Indian company has work to 
> be done.
> 
> Once again you can disagree with this opinion, but that is not what 
> you are questioning. You are questioning my consistency. I think you 
> will find it quite consistent.

Um, Jan, the only time I have questioned your consistency is with regard
to your opinions on who has a right to hold opinions on what. I think
the reasons for that were rather obvious.

> "4 or 5 years ago it was your problem not ours. Now it is our problem 
> too."
> 
> I am refering both to the exodus of employment from the US to India, 
> and the flooding of the US employment market with Indian Nationals.
> 
> Then again you are missing one very important distiction which I have 
> ignored until now, and that distiction makes your whole argument mute 
> on nearly every angle. And that is that I was refering to ~Culture~ 
> mostly, not to ~Politics~. 

How does that make my argument mute? And what on earth ever gave you the
impression that a nation's politics is sacrosanct but its culture is
free for use as a punching bag? Not that you made any such distinction,
mind you. When you were talking of employment moving to India you
happily jumped from laws to customs to economy to people....

> Still, I do not believe that you do not have a right to an ~opinion~ 
> about US polotics or culture.

I am glad we cleared this out. Not that I would have stopped having
opinions had you thought otherwise. :)

> Only, you do not have a right to an 
> opinion about whether or not the exodus of jobs from our nation to 
> yours is a good or a bad thing, and the appropriate political actions 
> we should take surounding that exodus. 

Oh, I agree. Which is why I have never expressed any opinion about
whether this trend is good or bad for you guys nor suggested what you
should do about it.

Ritu
GCU Storm In A Teacup


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