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> On Dec 23, 2024, at 6:13 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> 1) <!--[rfced] This document will be assigned a new BCP number. Please  
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> 
> 3) <!--[rfced] The short title that spans the top of the PDF file was
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> any further updates are desired, please let us know.
> 
> Current (in PDF file):
>   IETF Meeting Venue Requirements Review   
> -->
> 
> 
> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!--[rfced] Is this document "proposing" or "providing" updates to
> RFCs 8718 and 8719? May we update the Abstract's lead-in sentence
> from "this document proposes updates" to "this document was
> developed to update" as shown below for clarity?
> 
> Original:
>   Following a review of the IETF meeting venue requirements, this
>   document proposes updates to RFC 8718 "IETF Plenary Meeting Venue
>   Selection Process", clarifies how the IETF Administration Support
>   Activity (IASA) should interpret some elements of RFC 8718, and
>   proposes a replacement exploratory meeting process, thereby updating
>   RFC 8719 "High-Level Guidance for the Meeting Policy of the IETF".
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Following a review of the IETF meeting venue requirements, this
>   document was developed to update "IETF Plenary Meeting Venue
>   Selection Process" (RFC 8718), clarify how the IETF Administration 
>   Support Activity (IASA) should interpret some elements of RFC 8718,
>   and specify a replacement exploratory meeting process, thereby 
>   updating "High-Level Guidance for the Meeting Policy of the IETF" 
>   (RFC 8719).
> -->
> 
> 
> 6) <!--[rfced] Is "informed" the intended word here or would
> "communicated" be clearer?
> 
> Original:
>   The IASA has reviewed the venue selection in light of these
>   developments, primarily informed by the staff who work on venue
>   selection, and has identified a number of issues to be addressed 
>   by a combination of updates to those RFCs and clarifications of
>   interpretation.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The IASA has reviewed the venue selection in light of these
>   developments, which were primarily communicated by the staff who 
>   work on venue selection, and has identified a number of issues 
>   to be addressed by a combination of updates to those RFCs and 
>   clarifications of interpretation.
> -->
> 
> 
> 7) <!--[rfced] The text in Section 2 works off of the section title. To
> avoid this and the use of a colon in the section title, may
> we insert a lead-in sentence as shown below?
> 
> Original:
>   2. Summary of changes to [RFC8718] and [RFC8719]:
> 
>     1.  Updates the Meeting (Rotation) Policy of [RFC8719] with 
>         a new process for the selection of exploratory meetings...
> 
> Perhaps:
>   2. Summary of Changes to RFCs 8718 and 8719
> 
>     This document makes the following changes to [RFC8718] and [RFC8719]:
> 
>     1.  Updates the Meeting (Rotation) Policy specified in [RFC8719] with 
>         a new process for the selection of exploratory meetings...
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We updated the quoted text from RFC 8718 to exactly
> match (i.e., we updated "one-third of the projected attendees" to
> "one-third or more of projected meeting attendees") as shown
> below.
> 
> Original: 
>   3.  Updates the room block requirement of [RFC8718] from "one-third of the
>       projected attendees" to a more flexible "sufficient rooms to meet the 
>       expected demand".
> 
> Current:
>   3.  Updates the room block requirement specified in [RFC8718] from
>       "one-third or more of projected meeting attendees" to a more
>       flexible "sufficient rooms to meet the expected demand".
> -->
> 
> 
> 9) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We removed repeated text that appeared to be a typo (the
> text was the same as what appears in the next <blockquote> after "and"):
> 
> Original:
>   [...] the meeting policy (let's call this the "1-1-1" policy) is that 
> meetings
>   should rotate between North America, Europe, and Asia. the 1-1-1-* meeting
>   policy is a slightly modified version of the aforementioned 1-1-1 meeting
>   policy that allows for additional flexibility in the form of an exploratory
>   meeting (denoted with an "*").
> 
> Current:
>   [...] the meeting policy (let's call this the "1-1-1" policy) is that 
> meetings
>   should rotate between North America, Europe, and Asia. 
> -->
> 
> 
> 10) <!--[rfced] There are two instances of "to accommodate us". Is it okay
> to refer to "us", or would it be clearer (or more formal) to say
> "to accommodate the IETF meeting requirements" as shown below?
> 
> Original:
>    *  There are a limited number of hotels (and therefore cities)
>       with large enough meeting space and sufficient rooms to
>       accommodate us.
> 
>   While a "one-roof" venue is preferred, there are a limited number of
>   hotels (and therefore cities) with large enough meeting space and
>   sufficient rooms to accommodate us.
> 
> Perhaps:
>    *  There are a limited number of hotels (and therefore cities)
>       with large enough meeting space and sufficient rooms to
>       accommodate the IETF meeting requirements.
> 
>   While a "one-roof" venue is preferred, there are a limited number of
>   hotels (and therefore cities) with large enough meeting space and
>   sufficient rooms to accommodate the IETF meeting requirements.
> -->
> 
> 
> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI: RFC 8718 states "one-third or more of projected
> meeting attendees" rather than "one-third of the projected
> attendees", so we have updated the text accordingly.
> 
> Original:
>   To address this, this document updates Section 3.2.4 of [RFC8718] to
>   replace the requirement for the total room block in the IETF Hotels
>   from "one-third of the projected attendees" to a more flexible
>   "sufficient rooms to meet the expected demand".
> 
> Current:
>   To address this issue, this document updates Section 3.2.4 of [RFC8718]
>   by replacing the total room block requirement for the IETF Hotels from
>   "one-third or more of projected attendees" to a more flexible
>   "sufficient rooms to meet the expected demand".
> -->
> 
> 
> 12) <!--[rfced] Can "hiring" be replaced with "renting" or "providing" for
> clarity as shown below?
> 
> Original:
>   The IASA has responded to this feedback by adopting
>   a new practice of hiring in hallway seating whenever 
>   that provided by the venue is insufficient.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The IASA has responded to this feedback by adopting
>   a new practice of renting in-hallway seating whenever 
>   that provided by the venue is insufficient.
> -->
> 
> 
> 13) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We updated the following text to make the sections
> and RFC being referenced clearer:
> 
> Original:
>   To address this, is updated as follows: [RFC8718]
> 
>   1.  Section 3.2.2 is updated so that the bullet on ad-hoc meeting
>       space now reads:
> 
>        There are sufficient, easily accessible places within the
>        Facility for people to hold ad hoc conversations and group
>        discussions.
> 
>   2.  Section 3.2.4 is updated so that the bullet on the lounge now
>       reads:
> 
>        There are sufficient places within the Facility suitable for
>        people to work online on their own devices.
> 
> Current:
>   To address this, [RFC8718] is updated as follows:
> 
>   1.  Section 3.2.2 of [RFC8718] is updated so that the entry on
>       ad hoc meeting space (first bullet) now reads:
> 
>       |  There are sufficient, easily accessible places within the
>       |  Facility for people to hold ad hoc conversations and group
>       |  discussions.
> 
>   2.  Section 3.2.4 of [RFC8718] is updated so that the entry on 
>       the lounge (sixth bullet) now reads:
> 
>       |  There are sufficient places within the Facility suitable for
>       |  people to work online on their own devices.
> -->
> 
> 
> 14) <!--[rfced] Are these contributors considered coauthors for their
> contributions, or should the Contributors section perhaps be
> retitled "Acknowledgements" and the text be updated as shown
> below? Please let us know your preference.
> 
> Original:
>   Contributors
> 
>      Thanks to all of the contributors: Laura Nugent, Stephanie McCammon,
>      Alexa Morris, Greg Wood, Lars Eggert Eggert and Jason Livingood.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Acknowledgements
> 
>       Thanks to the following people for their contributions to 
>       this document: Laura Nugent, Stephanie McCammon, Alexa Morris, 
>       Greg Wood, Lars Eggert Eggert, and Jason Livingood.
> -->
> 
> 
> 15) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
> 
> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used 
> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they
> may be made consistent.  
> 
> Lounge vs. lounge 
>   (Note: lowercase in RFC 8718)
> 
> Meeting (Rotation) Policy vs. meeting rotation policy
>   (Note: appears as "meeting policy" in RFC 8719. Perhaps use 
>   "meeting (rotation) policy" or "meeting rotation policy"  
>   for consistency in Sections 2 and 3.1.)
> 
> One Roof vs. one roof
>   (Note: uppercase in RFC 8718.)
> 
> Overflow Hotels vs. overflow hotels
>   (Note: uppercase in RFC 8718.)
> 
> Terminal Room
>   (Note: lowercase in RFC 8718 and other RFCs.)
> 
> 
> b) Should one instance of "facility" perhaps be "Facility" in Section 4.1.2?
> 
> Original:
>   *  Group discussions can more naturally move from the facility to
>      the hotel.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   *  Group discussions can move more naturally from the facility to
>      the hotel.
> -->
> 
> 
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> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
> still be reviewed as a best practice.
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> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/kc
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2024, at 6:11 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
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> RFC9712 (draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-03)
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> Title            : IETF Meeting Venue Requirements Review
> Author(s)        : J. Daley, S. Turner
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