On Sun, 2025-03-02 at 23:49 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > I think this may be a bug in the Transparent Ribbon. It was intended to > > trigger off events that could earn you a ribbon whether or not you had > > the ribbon already, so that gaining ribbons doesn't get in the way of > > going for a Transparent – the bug is that if you don't have the ribbon, > > giving yourself the ribbon resets the timer, thus making it count for > > up to almost 14 days (if you award yourself the ribbon right at the end > > of the time period) rather than 7. > > > > That said, it may be hard to come up with a succinct wording to fix the > > issue, and some people may potentially consider the "bonus time" for a > > new ribbon to be a feature rather than a bug. > > > > As I recall, adding the "awarded" trigger was to make it work for Gray > ribbons. > > Also, the award doesn't affect it *in this particular case* because > Transparent can't be awarded within 7 days of Raising a Banner, and the > lookback window is also 7 days. So, any events that count for > Transparent must happen after the Banner.
Yeah, I noticed the latter point just after sending the proposal. (I recalled there was a reason why it didn't work but not what it was, forgot to ask, and concluded I was mistaken.) I think the general case is still true though - the people who now have a Violet but not a Transparent can't extend the time for which the Violet contributes to the Transparent. It is true that the way the Transparent Ribbon works is counterintuitive (clearly), although it hadn't occurred to me that that could be considered a bug. I think the rule would probably need extensive rewriting to remove it without breaking anything else, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that. For what it's worth, though, there are non-gameplay reasons too; it occurred to me I would be *actually* annoyed on a real-life level, rather than just in the context of the game, if it had been an Indigo Ribbon, because a past Indigo Ribbon of mine was obtained via scam - which is considered a breach of etiquette, as that's what Black is for - and I've been intending at some point to deliberately produce a thesis without claiming the ribbon, to even the balance (an opportunity that obviously rarely arises). I want to make sure that doesn't happen in the future. ~qenya
