Agora would stop existing. It would therfore have no state. Arguably
though, if we made a meta-descision to recreate it, it would start
existing again. The Paradox of Self-Amendment has some stuff on this.


-Aris

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote:
> As a thought experiment (only), what is the state of Agora if we repeal every 
> rule?
>
> -o
>
>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:30 AM, Aris Merchant 
>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ahh! Don't do that. All rules are instruments.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Proto:
>>>
>>> Title: Spring Cleaning
>>>
>>> Content: Remove all Historic Instruments [replace that with a proper
>>> definition for cleanup] that are older than 1 year old.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This whole conversation rung a memory bell for me, something Old (12+
>>>>> years old) that might be
>>>>> still in effect!
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a Proposal, that read something like the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Be it Hereby Proclaimed that from this moment forward, anyone who
>>>>> causes gamestate
>>>>>  changes without creating a public record is Guilty of the Crime of
>>>>> Invisibilitating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that Instruments don't lose power (they just reach the end of their
>>>>> effects).  So
>>>>> if a Proposal defines an effect as ongoing, there's still a Powered
>>>>> instrument out there
>>>>> proclaiming people guilty of this crime whenever they do it…
>>>>
>>>> fx: pained sigh
>>>>
>>>> As a practical matter, it’s not realistic for the Referee to keep track of
>>>> every infraction-bearing document indefinitely. The current rules to appear
>>>> to require it anyways, so I make an effort: I have a massive folder of
>>>> pledges, for example. However, at the end of the day, I (and, I think, my
>>>> inevitable successor) is only human, and can only account for so much.
>>>>
>>>> If I miss a card due to a historic Instrument, please bring it up.
>>>>
>>>> -o
>>>
>>>
>

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