We can also determine that Agora platonically ended, and recreate the game the same way we did it in the first place, with whatever ruleset and gamestate we feel like.
-Aris On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:25 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess if that happened we could uh... start calling CFJs, pretending > that the mechanism still existed. And then establish common law rules > that way (eg we could have proposal voting as a matter of common law > and then bring back the rules) > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Technically, it would "cause Agora to cease to exist." So yes. >> >> -Aris >> >> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:21 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> any proposal doing that would get failed bc of ossifying agora though right? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Aris Merchant >>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Agora would stop existing. It would therfore have no state. Arguably >>>> though, if we made a meta-descision to recreate it, it would start >>>> existing again. The Paradox of Self-Amendment has some stuff on this. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Aris >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>>>> As a thought experiment (only), what is the state of Agora if we repeal >>>>> every rule? >>>>> >>>>> -o >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:30 AM, Aris Merchant >>>>>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ahh! Don't do that. All rules are instruments. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Aris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Proto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Title: Spring Cleaning >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Content: Remove all Historic Instruments [replace that with a proper >>>>>>> definition for cleanup] that are older than 1 year old. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This whole conversation rung a memory bell for me, something Old (12+ >>>>>>>>> years old) that might be >>>>>>>>> still in effect! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There was a Proposal, that read something like the following: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Be it Hereby Proclaimed that from this moment forward, anyone who >>>>>>>>> causes gamestate >>>>>>>>> changes without creating a public record is Guilty of the Crime of >>>>>>>>> Invisibilitating. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note that Instruments don't lose power (they just reach the end of >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> effects). So >>>>>>>>> if a Proposal defines an effect as ongoing, there's still a Powered >>>>>>>>> instrument out there >>>>>>>>> proclaiming people guilty of this crime whenever they do it… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> fx: pained sigh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a practical matter, it’s not realistic for the Referee to keep >>>>>>>> track of >>>>>>>> every infraction-bearing document indefinitely. The current rules to >>>>>>>> appear >>>>>>>> to require it anyways, so I make an effort: I have a massive folder of >>>>>>>> pledges, for example. However, at the end of the day, I (and, I think, >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> inevitable successor) is only human, and can only account for so much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I miss a card due to a historic Instrument, please bring it up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -o >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From V.J Rada > > > > -- > From V.J Rada
