On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Logical:  "This statement is true."  On the basis of logic alone,
>> either TRUE or FALSE is self-consistent.
>>
>> Legal:  "Goethe was a player at <appropriate time c. December
>> 2006>".  According to one legal interpretation, TRUE is consistent
>> and FALSE is not; according to another, FALSE is consistent and
>> TRUE is not.
>
> I don't recall the details of Goethe's paradox; I think I was
> deregistered at the time.  But in general, if something is purely a
> matter of legal interpretation, then neither UNDECIDABLE nor FLOYD
> would be appropriate.  It's the judge's job in such a case to pick a
> legal interpretation and judge TRUE or FALSE based upon it.  That's
> the whole purpose of the judicial system to begin with.

It was geniunely one of those UNDECIDABLE ones.

Murphy assigned a CFJ on whether or not I was a player to myself, then
immediately afterwards to Sherlock (only valid if I wasn't a player).

I judged I was not a player, therefore my judgement was invalid
and Sherlock's assignment worked.

Sherlock judged that I was a player therefore eir judgement
was invalid and my assignment worked.

The important thing was that objectively, there were quite reasonable
arguments on both sides for whether I was a player or not (it was 
debated before the assignments).

-Goethe



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