I actually did a bunch of work troubleshooting and helping with the
development of the skinny on asterisk back in the early 2000s we had a
bunch of the cisco 7940s and 7960s we used in out MSP we deployed both
asterisk and callmanager based systems. I tried the sip versions of
those phones and it was just better to run the skinny version and use
the asterisk plugin. We then moved everything to polycom mostly around
2005 and stopped supporting the cisco phones. The HD voice was awsome on
those things. I think shortly after that was when they stopped being
relevant in the phone space. I would go with the HP Poly line as well.
It used to be my desk phone, but I now am trying out the UBNT phone
which is another option, but who knows when they might stop being
supported.
On 4/1/2025 9:43 PM, Daniel White wrote:
Others like IPiFony? They used some code someone wrote to emulate
SKINNY on Asterisk. I don’t remember the details.
Try putting a Cisco 79xx phone into SIP mode. If you don’t brick it,
and have the patience to let it do its thing, it only supports half of
the features. When Atheral first started, we had a client with
hundreds of these… we told them to rip/replace with something else
after trying to do it on 5 or 10 phones. Thankfully they listened and
replaced them with Polycom VVX410s.
The 7940G, especially, is the GOAT of VoIP phones, though, in my
opinion. It has been almost 15 years since the end of sale date and
you still see them /everywhere./
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------ Original Message ------
From "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Date 4/1/2025 3:27:17 PM
Subject Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
The Cisco 79xx phones weren't Sipura/Linksys ever. They were solid
commercial phones. Those phones running skinny would work with the
CCM (Cisco Call Manager) - and others.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 4:44 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
Amazing what a name means to people. In the case of Cisco, most
of their products came from acquisitions. The VoIP phones were
originally from Sipura, which Cisco bought and put under the
Linksys brand. When they sold Linksys to Belkin, they kept the
Sipura phones and put the Cisco badge on them. I have an old,
old SPA504G sitting on my desk, it does say CISCO IP PHONE
though, so obviously it’s a serious phone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipura_Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Catalyst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Cisco
Cisco is named after San Francisco, the founders came from
Stanford. So maybe the customer needs to realize he wants “woke”
phones.
If he is just showing a preference for stuff from US companies
instead of all that cheap Chinese and Korean stuff, rest assured
Grandstream is a US company. But from the opposite coast, I
believe their HQ is in Boston.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:20 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
I wish I could answer this. I deployed quite a few of the SPA5xx
phones. Those are straightforward enough, so if there's one with
Bluetooth and you find one new enough to have a Cisco badge maybe
you can appease that person.
I did have one proper Cisco that we played with, and at the time
I recall it being rather more difficult than everything else. We
wanted the option just in case we had someone like you have who
insists on Cisco, but over the years I did VoIP, exactly zero
customers ever wanted a proper Cisco after seeing what it cost.
-Adam
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*From:* AF on behalf of Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 1:41 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
We've been using grandstream phones for quite a while, cheap and
easy to
provision. One of my new business customers is making a stink
because
'he's never heard of Grandstream, these phones just don't work
with my
bluetooth headset, I NEED a Cisco phone because that's a real phone'
I'm thinking that it's mainly about ego, that his friends
probably have
Cisco phones on their desks, and he doesn't, so he's making up
issues.
I haven't used Cisco phones in many years, Linksys SPA504G's were my
last dabble into non-grandstream phones.
It looks like a Cisco phone with Bluetooth (A requirement) is
about $550
for an 8851. How do you provision those? Is there any sort of cloud
provisioning? Still done with TFTP? Put some sort of call
manager on
site? I really like that I can provision the Grandstream phones
while
they are behind the customers firewall without having to do any port
forwarding etc. Cisco always used to like Licensing, is that
still the
case to use them with normal SIP, or are they all SIP now.
Just wondering if it's worth trying to investigate Cisco phones
for this
one customer, or if Cisco phones really want a Cisco Callmanager
on the
backend.
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