Anybody else old enough to have watched The Cisco Kid on TV when they were growing up?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cisco_Kid_(TV_series) From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:58 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones Back in the day, they used to say "Nobody gets fired for buying IBM." The later corollary was "Nobody gets fired for buying Cisco." bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/1/2025 1:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Amazing what a name means to people. In the case of Cisco, most of their products came from acquisitions. The VoIP phones were originally from Sipura, which Cisco bought and put under the Linksys brand. When they sold Linksys to Belkin, they kept the Sipura phones and put the Cisco badge on them. I have an old, old SPA504G sitting on my desk, it does say CISCO IP PHONE though, so obviously it’s a serious phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipura_Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Catalyst https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Cisco Cisco is named after San Francisco, the founders came from Stanford. So maybe the customer needs to realize he wants “woke” phones. If he is just showing a preference for stuff from US companies instead of all that cheap Chinese and Korean stuff, rest assured Grandstream is a US company. But from the opposite coast, I believe their HQ is in Boston. From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones I wish I could answer this. I deployed quite a few of the SPA5xx phones. Those are straightforward enough, so if there's one with Bluetooth and you find one new enough to have a Cisco badge maybe you can appease that person. I did have one proper Cisco that we played with, and at the time I recall it being rather more difficult than everything else. We wanted the option just in case we had someone like you have who insists on Cisco, but over the years I did VoIP, exactly zero customers ever wanted a proper Cisco after seeing what it cost. -Adam _____ From: AF on behalf of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 1:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones We've been using grandstream phones for quite a while, cheap and easy to provision. One of my new business customers is making a stink because 'he's never heard of Grandstream, these phones just don't work with my bluetooth headset, I NEED a Cisco phone because that's a real phone' I'm thinking that it's mainly about ego, that his friends probably have Cisco phones on their desks, and he doesn't, so he's making up issues. I haven't used Cisco phones in many years, Linksys SPA504G's were my last dabble into non-grandstream phones. It looks like a Cisco phone with Bluetooth (A requirement) is about $550 for an 8851. How do you provision those? Is there any sort of cloud provisioning? Still done with TFTP? Put some sort of call manager on site? I really like that I can provision the Grandstream phones while they are behind the customers firewall without having to do any port forwarding etc. Cisco always used to like Licensing, is that still the case to use them with normal SIP, or are they all SIP now. Just wondering if it's worth trying to investigate Cisco phones for this one customer, or if Cisco phones really want a Cisco Callmanager on the backend. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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