I remember that show. Went great with a PB&J sandwich.
bp
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On 4/1/2025 2:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Anybody else old enough to have watched The Cisco Kid on TV when they
were growing up?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cisco_Kid_(TV_series)
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:58 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
Back in the day, they used to say "Nobody gets fired for buying IBM."
The later corollary was "Nobody gets fired for buying Cisco."
bp
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On 4/1/2025 1:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Amazing what a name means to people. In the case of Cisco, most
of their products came from acquisitions. The VoIP phones were
originally from Sipura, which Cisco bought and put under the
Linksys brand. When they sold Linksys to Belkin, they kept the
Sipura phones and put the Cisco badge on them. I have an old, old
SPA504G sitting on my desk, it does say CISCO IP PHONE though, so
obviously it’s a serious phone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipura_Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Catalyst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Cisco
Cisco is named after San Francisco, the founders came from
Stanford. So maybe the customer needs to realize he wants “woke”
phones.
If he is just showing a preference for stuff from US companies
instead of all that cheap Chinese and Korean stuff, rest assured
Grandstream is a US company. But from the opposite coast, I
believe their HQ is in Boston.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:20 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
I wish I could answer this. I deployed quite a few of the SPA5xx
phones. Those are straightforward enough, so if there's one with
Bluetooth and you find one new enough to have a Cisco badge maybe
you can appease that person.
I did have one proper Cisco that we played with, and at the time I
recall it being rather more difficult than everything else. We
wanted the option just in case we had someone like you have who
insists on Cisco, but over the years I did VoIP, exactly zero
customers ever wanted a proper Cisco after seeing what it cost.
-Adam
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*From:* AF on behalf of Nate Burke
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 1:41 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
We've been using grandstream phones for quite a while, cheap and
easy to
provision. One of my new business customers is making a stink because
'he's never heard of Grandstream, these phones just don't work with my
bluetooth headset, I NEED a Cisco phone because that's a real phone'
I'm thinking that it's mainly about ego, that his friends probably
have
Cisco phones on their desks, and he doesn't, so he's making up issues.
I haven't used Cisco phones in many years, Linksys SPA504G's were my
last dabble into non-grandstream phones.
It looks like a Cisco phone with Bluetooth (A requirement) is
about $550
for an 8851. How do you provision those? Is there any sort of cloud
provisioning? Still done with TFTP? Put some sort of call
manager on
site? I really like that I can provision the Grandstream phones while
they are behind the customers firewall without having to do any port
forwarding etc. Cisco always used to like Licensing, is that
still the
case to use them with normal SIP, or are they all SIP now.
Just wondering if it's worth trying to investigate Cisco phones
for this
one customer, or if Cisco phones really want a Cisco Callmanager
on the
backend.
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