Others like IPiFony? They used some code someone wrote to emulate
SKINNY on Asterisk. I don’t remember the details.
Try putting a Cisco 79xx phone into SIP mode. If you don’t brick it,
and have the patience to let it do its thing, it only supports half of
the features. When Atheral first started, we had a client with hundreds
of these… we told them to rip/replace with something else after trying
to do it on 5 or 10 phones. Thankfully they listened and replaced them
with Polycom VVX410s.
The 7940G, especially, is the GOAT of VoIP phones, though, in my
opinion. It has been almost 15 years since the end of sale date and you
still see them everywhere.
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------ Original Message ------
From "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Date 4/1/2025 3:27:17 PM
Subject Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
The Cisco 79xx phones weren't Sipura/Linksys ever. They were solid
commercial phones. Those phones running skinny would work with the CCM
(Cisco Call Manager) - and others.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 4:44 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
Amazing what a name means to people. In the case of Cisco, most of
their products came from acquisitions. The VoIP phones were
originally from Sipura, which Cisco bought and put under the Linksys
brand. When they sold Linksys to Belkin, they kept the Sipura phones
and put the Cisco badge on them. I have an old, old SPA504G sitting
on my desk, it does say CISCO IP PHONE though, so obviously it’s a
serious phone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipura_Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Catalyst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Cisco
Cisco is named after San Francisco, the founders came from Stanford.
So maybe the customer needs to realize he wants “woke” phones.
If he is just showing a preference for stuff from US companies instead
of all that cheap Chinese and Korean stuff, rest assured Grandstream
is a US company. But from the opposite coast, I believe their HQ is
in Boston.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
I wish I could answer this. I deployed quite a few of the SPA5xx
phones. Those are straightforward enough, so if there's one with
Bluetooth and you find one new enough to have a Cisco badge maybe you
can appease that person.
I did have one proper Cisco that we played with, and at the time I
recall it being rather more difficult than everything else. We wanted
the option just in case we had someone like you have who insists on
Cisco, but over the years I did VoIP, exactly zero customers ever
wanted a proper Cisco after seeing what it cost.
-Adam
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From: AF on behalf of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 1:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Desk VoIP Phones
We've been using grandstream phones for quite a while, cheap and easy
to
provision. One of my new business customers is making a stink because
'he's never heard of Grandstream, these phones just don't work with my
bluetooth headset, I NEED a Cisco phone because that's a real phone'
I'm thinking that it's mainly about ego, that his friends probably
have
Cisco phones on their desks, and he doesn't, so he's making up issues.
I haven't used Cisco phones in many years, Linksys SPA504G's were my
last dabble into non-grandstream phones.
It looks like a Cisco phone with Bluetooth (A requirement) is about
$550
for an 8851. How do you provision those? Is there any sort of cloud
provisioning? Still done with TFTP? Put some sort of call manager
on
site? I really like that I can provision the Grandstream phones while
they are behind the customers firewall without having to do any port
forwarding etc. Cisco always used to like Licensing, is that still
the
case to use them with normal SIP, or are they all SIP now.
Just wondering if it's worth trying to investigate Cisco phones for
this
one customer, or if Cisco phones really want a Cisco Callmanager on
the
backend.
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