I don’t understand why fiber is just some electronics but wireless requires a buildout. Aren’t they both just some electronics, but one requires installing a long piece of glass, while the other just goes through the air? Or free space, as in “free space loss”? The difference in my mind is that you don’t need the FCC to sell you spectrum over glass.
“You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat.” ― Albert Einstein From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2025 10:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BEAD Some of the early multimode was monofilament fishing line. It was not glass. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2025, at 8:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote: Not really. Early versions of fiber were much larger diameter. I worked for a company that had implemented fiber internally back in the 80s, but could not use it when the fiber got thinner and none of the new connectors would work on the old fat stuff. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/23/2025 5:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote: fiber installed in the 80s is capable of ten gig. the infrastructure stays the same as technology grows. when I started in wireless we could serve most anybody with good capacity 15 to 20 miles out all day long. fiber is just some electronics, wireless requires build outs. not a drop of tax dollar should go to that On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 1:12 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Is GPON good enough? That can only do gigabit and each port is 2.5G. Should these projects require NGPON? Or maybe every location should have AE so they can do 100G to start with. On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:01 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: Because in X years they won't be. With fiber they will be upon the same Infrastructure. On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 10:59 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: But people that currently have fixed wireless of 100x20 are sufficiently served? How does that make any sense? On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:44 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: they should not allow fixed wireless, they never should have allowed technology with a short shelf life On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 9:17 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: Well.... https://bsky.app/profile/craigsilverman.bsky.social/post/3lkiye5n2dk2p https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/seq3uoU1L5 The director of BEAD quit. He says the previous rules interpreted the bill to mean that only FTTH would meet the performance and future-proofing requirements. He is claiming that there are proposed rule changes that will allow Starlink but not allow fixed wireless. I don't know whether the changes intentionally benefit Starlink, but this guy is crying foul and felt strongly enough about it to resign over it. -Adam _____ From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 12:19 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] BEAD I’m surprised BEAD hasn’t run into problems because the E stands for Equity and DEI is now banned. But if they eliminate the E, would it just be BAD? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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