I think it would be a lot more inconvenient to keep a human pet in a war
zone.

On Sat, Jan 4, 2025, 1:19 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A comment I saw from someone who lived through a warzone in Kosovo was
> that anyone who wanted one could get their hands on an AK, but you're
> better off carrying food, water, medicine, cigarettes, and other consumable
> or tradeable goods.  His reason was you only get to lose the gunfight
> once.
>
> Dealing with a trespasser or burglar is not the same thing as a warzone,
> but the same rule applies.
>
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> I don’t have any direct access to repeating firearms and not quick access
> to some antique single shot bolt action 22 cal rifles.
>
> I don’t want to have that as an option forcing me to think of perhaps
> better options.  Hope I never regret this but I have made it this far
> without needing to shoot anyone.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 12:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
>
>
> I took my ccl, certificate is weird, technically good for life until I
> submit it, then the expiration of the license starts countdown. I never
> submitted because all your vehicle registrations pop up ccl driver. too
> many idiots drive my vehicles. besides I still have too hot a temper to
> carry, so many people would talk so much less if they were just trying to
> breath through their sternum.  plus in illinois it's hard to shoot a home
> invader, three things have to align to give somebody breathing room in
> their chest cavity, you're better off just snaring them and keeping a pet
> in the basement.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025, 8:36 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> Steve makes it sound like an episode of Justified.
>
> Which reminds me, did they revive that show?
>
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>
> Wow this is getting deep.
>
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> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Politics
> Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2025 3:15 PM
>
> illinois foid has been ruled unconstitutional, but never to the point of
> trashing it. it used to be good for 10 years and acted as a lawful photo
> ID, now it's not and the renewals are weird. you used to be able to get one
> clean at the age of 14, but now it's 21, younger you have to be sponsored
> and the sponsor gets charged for any crime you commit..
> ccl is a statewide license, 1 to 2 day course depending on your
> background. without ccl, all magazines last i knew had to be transported
> empty  of ammunition. Chicago's handgun ban went up in flames when the ccl
> laws went in effect.
> there is an unconstitutional "assault weapon" ban on the books that also
> bans "high capacity" magazines. the ban is currently ruled unconstitutional
> but is still in effect pending the states appeal.
>
> we don't have time to poke our cousins in illinois, because we are too
> busy trying to figure out what rights we have, that and most of our cousins
> are meth heads here.
>
> pretty sure if everybody took a 23andme across the country, we would all
> find closer cousins than we thought. lots of spring kneed wives and
> wandering husband's in this place. you get into the urban areas where the
> generational public housing is at its 5th, 6th, 7th generation of
> fatherless households, the numbers probably make rural kentuckians cringe
> at the volume of familial breeding going on.
> redneck Feskus blushes at the thought.
>
> China, with all its prior breeding restrictions probably had less of an
> inbreeding problem since there weren't as many cousins floating around.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025, 2:19?PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> Had to look it up.  You are right, I was wrong.  Need a concealed carry
> license which are issued by the Illinois State Police (the other ISP).
> Good throughout the state including City of Chicago.  And it appears that
> Illinois does not recognize CCL’s from other states..
>
>
>
> Looks like there might be a city ordinance on the books against high
> capacity magazines which has not been tested and probably would not stand
> up.  I suspect the city might make it difficult to open a gun store within
> city limits, but you would just need to go a few miles to find one, or to
> Wisconsin or Indiana where you can probably buy howitzers and ICBMs
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *jay weekley
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:23 PM
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>
>
>
> I think the FOID is just to own a firearm.  I believe a permit is still
> needed to carry one in public.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 9:40?AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> Are those the states where nobody noticed when they replaced Bo and Luke
> with Coy and Vance?
>
>
>
> As far as owning a gun in Chicago, I believe most of those rules are set
> by the state.  Illinois requires a FOID card.  I’m not aware of any
> prohibition against OWNING a gun in the City of Chicago.  I don’t believe
> open carry is allowed.  Concealed carry is allowed with a FOID card but
> prohibited in schools, bars and on CTA trains.  Business owners can post a
> state approved sign saying guns are not allowed in their establishment.
> Bars (consumption-on-premises establishments) are required to post such a
> sign.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:56 AM
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>
>
> Try owning a gun in LA, Chicago, or NYC.  When you're arrested and thrown
> in jail I want to hear you cry "but it's a constitutional right".
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 9:46?AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure all state allow gun ownership as it is a constitutional right.
> Some try to restrict it, but a lot of those cases will be making their way
> to the SC this year.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:30?AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> The ones that permit gun ownership?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:41?AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> It's a very odd combination of states t hat do and do not allow it.
>
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