Wow this is getting deep.

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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Politics
Date: Thu, Jan 2, 2025 3:15 PM

illinois foid has been ruled unconstitutional, but never to the point of 
trashing it. it used to be good for 10 years and acted as a lawful photo ID, 
now it's not and the renewals are weird. you used to be able to get one clean 
at the age of 14, but now it's 21, younger you have to be sponsored and the 
sponsor gets charged for any crime you commit..ccl is a statewide license, 1 to 
2 day course depending on your background. without ccl, all magazines last i 
knew had to be transported empty  of ammunition. Chicago's handgun ban went up 
in flames when the ccl laws went in effect.
there is an unconstitutional "assault weapon" ban on the books that also bans 
"high capacity" magazines. the ban is currently ruled unconstitutional but is 
still in effect pending the states appeal.

we don't have time to poke our cousins in illinois, because we are too busy 
trying to figure out what rights we have, that and most of our cousins are meth 
heads here.

pretty sure if everybody took a 23andme across the country, we would all find 
closer cousins than we thought. lots of spring kneed wives and wandering 
husband's in this place. you get into the urban areas where the generational 
public housing is at its 5th, 6th, 7th generation of fatherless households, the 
numbers probably make rural kentuckians cringe at the volume of familial 
breeding going on.
 redneck Feskus blushes at the thought.

China, with all its prior breeding restrictions probably had less of an 
inbreeding problem since there weren't as many cousins floating around.




On Thu, Jan 2, 2025, 2:19 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
Had to look it up.  You are right, I was wrong.  Need a concealed carry license 
which are issued by the Illinois State Police (the other ISP).  Good throughout 
the state including City of Chicago.  And it appears that Illinois does not 
recognize CCL’s from other states.. Looks like there might be a city ordinance 
on the books against high capacity magazines which has not been tested and 
probably would not stand up.  I suspect the city might make it difficult to 
open a gun store within city limits, but you would just need to go a few miles 
to find one, or to Wisconsin or Indiana where you can probably buy howitzers 
and ICBMs From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of jay weekley
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
 I think the FOID is just to own a firearm.  I believe a permit is still needed 
to carry one in public. 
 On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 9:40 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
Are those the states where nobody noticed when they replaced Bo and Luke with 
Coy and Vance? As far as owning a gun in Chicago, I believe most of those rules 
are set by the state.  Illinois requires a FOID card.  I’m not aware of any 
prohibition against OWNING a gun in the City of Chicago.  I don’t believe open 
carry is allowed.  Concealed carry is allowed with a FOID card but prohibited 
in schools, bars and on CTA trains.  Business owners can post a state approved 
sign saying guns are not allowed in their establishment.  Bars 
(consumption-on-premises establishments) are required to post such a sign. 
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics
 Try owning a gun in LA, Chicago, or NYC.  When you're arrested and thrown in 
jail I want to hear you cry "but it's a constitutional right".
 On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 9:46 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com> wrote:
Pretty sure all state allow gun ownership as it is a constitutional right. Some 
try to restrict it, but a lot of those cases will be making their way to the SC 
this year. 
 On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:30 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:
The ones that permit gun ownership?
 On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 7:41 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
It's a very odd combination of states t hat do and do not allow it.

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 From: ch...@go-mtc.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2025 5:58:05 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT  PoliticsThis explains everything:  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Cousin_marriage_map1.svg
 


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