That's very much a California price.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 9:46 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have a local propane user's group who negotiated a deal for a fixed
> markup above wholesale for our area. Locally, MSRP on propane is running
> about $4.50/gallon, but our user's group rate is $2.75 That's quite a
> savings when buying a few hundred gallons. Our latest fill:
>
>
> *Description* *Quantity* *Price*
> *Amount*
>
> Propane 258.6 $2.75/gal
> $711.15
> Senior Citizens Disc
> $5.17
> HazMat Fee - T
> $14.99
> Fuel Recovery Fee-T
> $7.99
>
> TOTAL NEW CHARGES
> $728.96
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 12/5/2024 2:40 PM, Zach Underwood wrote:
>
> God I wish it was $1.6 per gal.
> Here is from a Delivery I got in mid October here in SC
> 34.3 gal x $3.60 per gal = $123.45
> Hazmat fee = $13.62
> Fuel Recovery fee = $7.96
> 34.3 gal for a total of $145.03 or $4.20 per gallon.
> Only thing I have on the 100gal tank is tankless water heater and 5kw
> backup generator.
>
> We lost power for 5 days after Hurricane Helene and we ran the generator
> for 18 hours a day (turned off at night) we avg about 8-10 gal of propane
> per day.
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 5:28 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When I was directly involved in that it was around 2016, and it was
>> $2.something a gallon. I remember remarking to myself that it was close to
>> the gasoline price (at the time). I think the tank was 500 gallon and they
>> fill it to 400 or some such, I'm sure it would have lasted a week if we
>> needed it to. Regardless of the price, it's worth every penny to just know
>> the tank is always full and that we have so much of it. I'd pay double the
>> market rate for propane to get that (but I won't tell the fuel company
>> that).
>>
>> And yes, to Ken, this would only make sense for a permanently installed
>> standby generator, and one where the propane truck can get to it.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
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>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 5, 2024 2:49 PM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
>>
>> That's a really good idea, just outsource the whole problem to someone
>> else, assuming that someone else will be able to accommodate where it is.
>>
>> How does delivered propane compare in price to DIY?
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:20:51 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
>>
>> You could start it up on a warmer day to rule out a regulator, air
>> filter, or whatever. But yeah it certainly could be the cold.
>>
>> I'm sure I've seen tank heaters somewhere, but you know the best thing I
>> ever did for myself on these things was get an account with a gas company.
>> They supplied a massive tank at no charge. We just pay for fuel, and they
>> come top it up twice a year (or on request). The first fillup was
>> expensive because it was just a crapload of propane, but after that it was
>> a minimal charge twice a year as long as the generator had only been
>> exercising. Obviously, it's more money if you actually had a power outage,
>> but you'll be buying the gas either way and it's just easier if someone
>> else takes care of it. And freezing won't be an issue. If they know what
>> they're doing they'll ask you about the fuel consumption of the generator
>> and size the tank appropriately for the vaporization in cold weather.
>>
>> You can't do that if the gas truck can't drive up to the site, but as
>> long as that's not an issue then it would behoove you to call around and
>> see what you can get from a local gas company.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Nate Burke <
>> n...@blastcomm.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:12 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps
>>
>> Many years ago, I think Chuck had posted an excellent chart showing
>> Propane tank sizes, and the offgas rate at different temperatures, but I
>> can't find it anymore, and my Google results don't show what I think it
>> was.
>>
>> We have several 2000-2500w Champion Dual-Fuel Generators that have been
>> working flawlessly for us with propane. Last night was the first time I
>> think that I deployed one in Cold temperatures though. We were about 13
>> degrees last night. I have it on a 30# tank, and it fired right up, and
>> ran for about 5 minutes, then turned off. Fired it up again, and it ran
>> for 2 hours and shut off. Propane tank was nearly full, but I'm
>> wondering if it was too cold for the propane. Back-of-the-napkin math
>> says that possibly it was. Working out some numbers based on run
>> times@60F, it looks like it might draw about 14kbtu/hr At 10 degrees,
>> it looks like a 30# tank will only do about 13kbtu/hr. Would a heater
>> blanket work And/or provide enough heat to offset the lower
>> temperatures? Or just stick with Gas for the winter. We're warming up
>> now, so won't be able to test until it gets cold again.
>>
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