I figured we were lost way back when when we tried to get the "spam" tag
forced into email headers and the congresspeople of the state of
california passed a law forbidding it. They were worried that election
propaganda would meet the definition of spam...
That was the last attempt to make the internet reasonable...
On 10/10/24 2:23 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
There are people who see the changes and have concluded that it’s
weather control by the government. A certain congresswoman made
statements about the hurricanes hitting southern red states in the
month before the election. Then she clarified that yes she means
weather control. Then she doubled down that yes, obviously “they” can
control the weather and that it’s a ridiculous lie to say it can’t be
done. I’m unclear on how proponents of this idea imagine a Hurricane
would impact elections. It reminds me of the Southpark underpants gnomes.
Deep State Gnomes Plan to Win Election:
1. Cause hurricanes in red states.
2. ????
3. Win!
I would like to believe it’s a tiny number of crackpots, but I don’t
think it’s that simple. I’m scared for the future because everyone
has access to so much information and so much of it is bullshit. If
I’m exposed to 1000 incorrect ideas and I accept one of them, then I
now believe in an incorrect idea, and that incorrect idea will affect
how I live my life –including how I vote. I can look at 999 other
incorrect ideas and still feel like I’m a discerning and intelligent
consumer because I successfully recognized them all as bullshit. So
a person can believe the moon landing was fake, and they know they’re
not the stupid one because they’re a smart person. They did research
and got the information, and they’re not some idiot who’s fooled by
complete nonsense like “NOAA creates hurricanes” and “lizard people
secretly run the world”.
I’ve been using the really crazy examples, but all of our political
opinions are being shaped by ideas being fed to us through all manner
of media. Odds are that every single one of us has absorbed some
bullshit.
We may have to burn down the whole Internet for our own good. We are
not ready for this power.
-Adam
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 2:53 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
I am guessing those that want to deny everything will also deny
centuries of weather observation data... Many, perhaps most, resist
paradigm change.
*From:*dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
Come explain this to my whole family, please. I’ll invite you to
Thanksgiving dinner.
“Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase
in temperatures.
So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
Occam's Razor.
“
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
*On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Weather
I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy
theory. I am not given to any conspiracies.
Today the subject was HAARP. (Defunct research project to attempt
ionospheric heating). I was actually tangentially associated with
HAARP for a while.
Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere
that could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very
exciting. The problem is, it never worked. They learned a whole
bunch about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked
out. But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control
the weather. Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with
HAARP. And control is not really a good word, more like influence.
I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.
HAARP was heating the ionosphere. There ain’t no weather up there.
Weather is in the troposphere.
Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is
100 times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in
temperature.
Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture. Something like 7%
per degree. Don’t recall if that was F or C.
If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with
something like radiowaves interesting things could happen. Even
nefarious things. So far, no system has been demonstrated. Inverse
square law governs. If you calculate the specific heat of a large
enough volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount
of energy needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several
nuclear powered aircraft carriers to power the transmitter. Better
just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.
Here is another fact: For as long as there have been thermometers,
humans have been keeping a record of temperatures. Some of those old
thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be
characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.
Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase
in temperatures.
So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
Occam's Razor.
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