My Dad owned gas stations. Used to bring a little bottle of Hi-test
home because my mom loved the smell... I like your mom over mine...
On 10/9/24 13:33, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
My mom would not let us eat blackberrys that came from bushes along the
side of the highways for this reason. She was probably right.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 2:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
This would have had a much much bigger effect on Boomers than any other
generation... ( this is actually true !)
On 10/9/24 12:21, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I saw someone the other day saying Gen X votes a certain way because
breathing lead from leaded gasoline cost them X many IQ points. I am
pretty sure this was sarcasm, but you can’t tell anymore.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2024 1:54 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_years#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_years#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg>
I have no reason to doubt this data.
*From:*dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
Come explain this to my whole family, please. I’ll invite you to
Thanksgiving dinner.
“Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase
in temperatures.
So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
Occam's Razor.
“
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
*On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Weather
I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy
theory. I am not given to any conspiracies.
Today the subject was HAARP. (Defunct research project to attempt
ionospheric heating). I was actually tangentially associated with
HAARP for a while.
Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere
that could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very
exciting. The problem is, it never worked. They learned a whole bunch
about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.
But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the
weather. Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.
And control is not really a good word, more like influence.
I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.
HAARP was heating the ionosphere. There ain’t no weather up there.
Weather is in the troposphere.
Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is
100 times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in
temperature.
Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture. Something like 7%
per degree. Don’t recall if that was F or C.
If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with
something like radiowaves interesting things could happen. Even
nefarious things. So far, no system has been demonstrated. Inverse
square law governs. If you calculate the specific heat of a large
enough volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount
of energy needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several
nuclear powered aircraft carriers to power the transmitter. Better
just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.
Here is another fact: For as long as there have been thermometers,
humans have been keeping a record of temperatures. Some of those old
thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be
characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.
Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase
in temperatures.
So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
Occam's Razor.
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