There are people who see the changes and have concluded that it's weather
control by the government.  A certain congresswoman made statements about
the hurricanes hitting southern red states in the month before the election.
Then she clarified that yes she means weather control.  Then she doubled
down that yes, obviously "they" can control the weather and that it's a
ridiculous lie to say it can't be done.   I'm unclear on how proponents of
this idea imagine a Hurricane would impact elections.  It reminds me of the
Southpark underpants gnomes.

Deep State Gnomes Plan to Win Election:

1. Cause hurricanes in red states.

2. ????

3. Win!

 

I would like to believe it's a tiny number of crackpots, but I don't think
it's that simple.  I'm scared for the future because everyone has access to
so much information and so much of it is bullshit.  If I'm exposed to 1000
incorrect ideas and I accept one of them, then I now believe in an incorrect
idea, and that incorrect idea will affect how I live my life -including how
I vote.  I can look at 999 other incorrect ideas and still feel like I'm a
discerning and intelligent consumer because I successfully recognized them
all as bullshit.   So a person can believe the moon landing was fake, and
they know they're not the stupid one because they're a smart person.  They
did research and got the information, and they're not some idiot who's
fooled by complete nonsense like "NOAA creates hurricanes" and "lizard
people secretly run the world".  

 

I've been using the really crazy examples, but all of our political opinions
are being shaped by ideas being fed to us through all manner of media.  Odds
are that every single one of us has absorbed some bullshit.  

 

We may have to burn down the whole Internet for our own good.  We are not
ready for this power. 

 

-Adam

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 2:53 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather

 

I am guessing those that want to deny everything will also deny centuries of
weather observation data...  Many, perhaps most,  resist paradigm change.  

 

From:  <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> dmmoff...@gmail.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather

 

Come explain this to my whole family, please.  I'll invite you to
Thanksgiving dinner.

 

 

"Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in
temperatures.  

 

So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.
More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.  

 

Occam's Razor.  

"

 

From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On
Behalf Of  <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
To:  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Weather

 

I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy
theory.  I am not given to any conspiracies.    

 

Today the subject was HAARP.  (Defunct research project to attempt
ionospheric heating).   I was actually tangentially associated with HAARP
for a while.  

 

Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere that
could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very exciting.
The problem is, it never worked.  They learned a whole bunch about the upper
atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.  But wow, is there a
group believing that the guvmnt can control the weather.  Yes, they can with
cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.  And control is not really a good
word, more like influence.  

 

I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.  

HAARP was heating the ionosphere.  There ain't no weather up there.

Weather is in the troposphere.

Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 100
times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in temperature.


 

Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.  Something like 7% per
degree.  Don't recall if that was F or C.  

 

If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with something
like radiowaves interesting things could happen.  Even nefarious things.  So
far, no system has been demonstrated.  Inverse square law governs.  If you
calculate the specific heat of a large enough volume of air (Like a sphere
20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy needed for the transmitters would
be on the scale of several nuclear powered aircraft carriers  to power the
transmitter.  Better just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.


 

Here is another fact:  For as long as there have been thermometers, humans
have been keeping a record of temperatures.  Some of those old thermometers
actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be characterized and
their records could be adjusted to modern standards.

 

Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in
temperatures.  

 

So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.
More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.  

 

Occam's Razor.  

  _____  

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