I thought that might be true.  But what do I know, I'm a boomer, so probably 
dumb as a rock.

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 3:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather

This would have had a much much bigger effect on Boomers than any other 
generation...  ( this is actually true !)

On 10/9/24 12:21, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I saw someone the other day saying Gen X votes a certain way because 
> breathing lead from leaded gasoline cost them X many IQ points.  I am 
> pretty sure this was sarcasm, but you can’t tell anymore.
> 
> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2024 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_yea
> rs#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_P
> eriod_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_ye
> ars#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_
> Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg>
> 
> I have no reason to doubt this data.
> 
> *From:*dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> 
> *Sent:*Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
> 
> Come explain this to my whole family, please.  I’ll invite you to 
> Thanksgiving dinner.
> 
> “Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase 
> in temperatures.
> 
> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the 
> air.  More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
> 
> Occam's Razor.
> 
> “
> 
> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> 
> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Weather
> 
> I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy 
> theory.  I am not given to any conspiracies.
> 
> Today the subject was HAARP.  (Defunct research project to attempt 
> ionospheric heating).   I was actually tangentially associated with 
> HAARP for a while.
> 
> Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere 
> that could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very 
> exciting.  The problem is, it never worked.  They learned a whole 
> bunch about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.
> But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the 
> weather.  Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.  
> And control is not really a good word, more like influence.
> 
> I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.
> 
> HAARP was heating the ionosphere.  There ain’t no weather up there.
> 
> Weather is in the troposphere.
> 
> Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 
> 100 times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in 
> temperature.
> 
> Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.  Something like 7% 
> per degree.  Don’t recall if that was F or C.
> 
> If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with 
> something like radiowaves interesting things could happen.  Even 
> nefarious things.  So far, no system has been demonstrated.  Inverse 
> square law governs.  If you calculate the specific heat of a large 
> enough volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount 
> of energy needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several 
> nuclear powered aircraft carriers  to power the transmitter.  Better 
> just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.
> 
> Here is another fact:  For as long as there have been thermometers, 
> humans have been keeping a record of temperatures.  Some of those old 
> thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be 
> characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.
> 
> Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase 
> in temperatures.
> 
> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the 
> air.  More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
> 
> Occam's Razor.
> 
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