they need to find a way to get that kind of stuff back in front of kids
eyes. the wonder of adventure. I think gen Xers got all nervous about
letting kids watch adventure in any kind of unfiltered capacity after the
challenger

On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 3:56 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> I remember being sensitized to the danger of tetraethyl lead by watching
> some kind of scuba diving show when I was a kid.  They were diving on a
> site
> where there were barrels of the stuff either on a ship wreck or on the
> ocean
> floor.  One of the barrels had a leak and one of the divers got a drop on
> him and it killed him.
>
> That was pretty impactful for a 6 year old.  I loved Jacque Cousteau and
> Sea
> Hunt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 2:37 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
> My Dad owned gas stations.   Used to bring a little bottle of Hi-test
> home because my mom loved the smell...  I like your mom over mine...
>
> On 10/9/24 13:33, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
> > My mom would not let us eat blackberrys that came from bushes along the
> > side of the highways for this reason.  She was probably right.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 2:27 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
> >
> > This would have had a much much bigger effect on Boomers than any other
> > generation...  ( this is actually true !)
> >
> > On 10/9/24 12:21, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >> I saw someone the other day saying Gen X votes a certain way because
> >> breathing lead from leaded gasoline cost them X many IQ points.  I am
> >> pretty sure this was sarcasm, but you can’t tell anymore.
> >>
> >> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2024 1:54 PM
> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
> >>
> >>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_years#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg
> >> <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_last_2,000_years#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg
> >
> >>
> >> I have no reason to doubt this data.
> >>
> >> *From:*dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> *Sent:*Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM
> >>
> >> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >>
> >> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
> >>
> >> Come explain this to my whole family, please.  I’ll invite you to
> >> Thanksgiving dinner.
> >>
> >> “Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase
> in
> >> temperatures.
> >>
> >> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
> air.
> >> More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
> >>
> >> Occam's Razor.
> >>
> >> “
> >>
> >> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
> *On
> >> Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
> >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Weather
> >>
> >> I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy
> >> theory.  I am not given to any conspiracies.
> >>
> >> Today the subject was HAARP.  (Defunct research project to attempt
> >> ionospheric heating).   I was actually tangentially associated with
> HAARP
> >> for a while.
> >>
> >> Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere
> that
> >> could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very
> exciting.
> >> The problem is, it never worked.  They learned a whole bunch about the
> >> upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.  But wow, is
> >> there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the weather.  Yes,
> >> they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.  And control is not
> >> really a good word, more like influence.
> >>
> >> I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.
> >>
> >> HAARP was heating the ionosphere.  There ain’t no weather up there.
> >>
> >> Weather is in the troposphere.
> >>
> >> Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is
> 100
> >> times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in
> >> temperature.
> >>
> >> Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.  Something like 7%
> per
> >> degree.  Don’t recall if that was F or C.
> >>
> >> If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with
> >> something like radiowaves interesting things could happen.  Even
> >> nefarious things.  So far, no system has been demonstrated.  Inverse
> >> square law governs.  If you calculate the specific heat of a large
> enough
> >> volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy
> >> needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several nuclear
> >> powered aircraft carriers  to power the transmitter.  Better just to
> >> launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.
> >>
> >> Here is another fact:  For as long as there have been thermometers,
> >> humans have been keeping a record of temperatures.  Some of those old
> >> thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be
> >> characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.
> >>
> >> Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase
> in
> >> temperatures.
> >>
> >> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the
> air.
> >> More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
> >>
> >> Occam's Razor.
> >>
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