I don't believe what I read or hear anymore, but with that caveat, I saw a 
claim that people in Florida tend to believe climate change is driving more 
severe weather as well as sea level rise. Despite their political leanings. 
Because they see it with their own eyes.---- Original Message ----From: 
dmmoffett@gmail.comSent: 10/9/2024 1:18:51 PMTo: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
Group'" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT WeatherCome explain this to my whole family, 
please.? I?ll invite you to Thanksgiving dinner.???Here is another fact:? All 
the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures.? ?So circle back to 
the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.? More moisture in the 
air makes clouds which make storms and rain.? ?Occam's Razor.? ??From: AF 
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of chuck@go-mtc.comSent: Wednesday, October 
09, 2024 11:20 AMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: [AFMUG] OT Weather?I have many 
friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy theory.? I am not 
given to any conspiracies.??? ?Today the subject was HAARP.? (Defunct research 
project to attempt ionospheric heating).?? I was actually tangentially 
associated with HAARP for a while.? ?Being a life long ham the prospect of 
creating a patch of ionosphere that could reflect HF signals any time of the 
day or night was very exciting.? The problem is, it never worked.? They learned 
a whole bunch about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked 
out.? But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the 
weather.? Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.? And control 
is not really a good word, more like influence.? ?I try to speak reason, share 
some facts, always falls on deaf ears.? HAARP was heating the ionosphere.? 
There ain?t no weather up there.Weather is in the troposphere.Troposcatter can 
inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 100 times higher 
frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in temperature.? ?Here is a 
fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.? Something like 7% per degree.? Don?t 
recall if that was F or C.? ?If you could selectively and effectively heat the 
atmosphere with something like radiowaves interesting things could happen.? 
Even nefarious things.? So far, no system has been demonstrated.? Inverse 
square law governs.? If you calculate the specific heat of a large enough 
volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy needed 
for the transmitters would be on the scale of several nuclear powered aircraft 
carriers? to power the transmitter.? Better just to launch small nukes with 
cloud seeding fall out.? ?Here is another fact:? For as long as there have been 
thermometers, humans have been keeping a record of temperatures.? Some of those 
old thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be 
characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.?Here is 
another fact:? All the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures.? 
?So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.? More 
moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.? ?Occam's Razor.? 
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