Maybe just assume that it's 100% BS, and then you won't be influenced by
anything but your own (BS).

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On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 4:14 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> I got an email about reading maps backward, but it turned out to be spam.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Sent: 10/11/2024 5:08:01 AM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
> Haha yeah, maybe that’s the beginning of the end.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Robert <
> i...@avantwireless.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 11, 2024 12:38:38 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
> I figured we were lost way back when when we tried to get the "spam" tag
> forced into email headers and the congresspeople of the state of california
> passed a law forbidding it.   They were worried that election propaganda
> would meet the definition of spam...
>
> That was the last attempt to make the internet reasonable...
>
> On 10/10/24 2:23 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> There are people who see the changes and have concluded that it’s weather
> control by the government.  A certain congresswoman made statements about
> the hurricanes hitting southern red states in the month before the
> election.  Then she clarified that yes she means weather control.  Then she
> doubled down that yes, obviously “they” can control the weather and that
> it’s a ridiculous lie to say it can’t be done.   I’m unclear on how
> proponents of this idea imagine a Hurricane would impact elections.  It
> reminds me of the Southpark underpants gnomes.
>
> Deep State Gnomes Plan to Win Election:
>
> 1. Cause hurricanes in red states.
>
> 2. ????
>
> 3. Win!
>
>
>
> I would like to believe it’s a tiny number of crackpots, but I don’t think
> it’s that simple.  I’m scared for the future because everyone has access to
> so much information and so much of it is bullshit.  If I’m exposed to 1000
> incorrect ideas and I accept one of them, then I now believe in an
> incorrect idea, and that incorrect idea will affect how I live my life
> –including how I vote.  I can look at 999 other incorrect ideas and still
> feel like I’m a discerning and intelligent consumer because I successfully
> recognized them all as bullshit.   So a person can believe the moon landing
> was fake, and they know they’re not the stupid one because they’re a smart
> person.  They did research and got the information, and they’re not some
> idiot who’s fooled by complete nonsense like “NOAA creates hurricanes” and
> “lizard people secretly run the world”.
>
>
>
> I’ve been using the really crazy examples, but all of our political
> opinions are being shaped by ideas being fed to us through all manner of
> media.  Odds are that every single one of us has absorbed some bullshit.
>
>
>
> We may have to burn down the whole Internet for our own good.  We are not
> ready for this power.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
>
>
> I am guessing those that want to deny everything will also deny centuries
> of weather observation data...  Many, perhaps most,  resist paradigm
> change.
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
>
>
> Come explain this to my whole family, please.  I’ll invite you to
> Thanksgiving dinner.
>
>
>
>
>
> “Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in
> temperatures.
>
>
>
> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.
> More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
>
>
>
> Occam's Razor.
>
> “
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Weather
>
>
>
> I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy
> theory.  I am not given to any conspiracies.
>
>
>
> Today the subject was HAARP.  (Defunct research project to attempt
> ionospheric heating).   I was actually tangentially associated with HAARP
> for a while.
>
>
>
> Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere that
> could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very exciting.
> The problem is, it never worked.  They learned a whole bunch about the
> upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.  But wow, is
> there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the weather.  Yes, they
> can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.  And control is not really a
> good word, more like influence.
>
>
>
> I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.
>
> HAARP was heating the ionosphere.  There ain’t no weather up there.
>
> Weather is in the troposphere.
>
> Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 100
> times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in
> temperature.
>
>
>
> Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.  Something like 7% per
> degree.  Don’t recall if that was F or C.
>
>
>
> If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with
> something like radiowaves interesting things could happen.  Even nefarious
> things.  So far, no system has been demonstrated.  Inverse square law
> governs.  If you calculate the specific heat of a large enough volume of
> air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy needed for
> the transmitters would be on the scale of several nuclear powered aircraft
> carriers  to power the transmitter.  Better just to launch small nukes with
> cloud seeding fall out.
>
>
>
> Here is another fact:  For as long as there have been thermometers, humans
> have been keeping a record of temperatures.  Some of those old thermometers
> actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be characterized and
> their records could be adjusted to modern standards.
>
>
>
> Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in
> temperatures.
>
>
>
> So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.
> More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.
>
>
>
> Occam's Razor.
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