Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Ok, that’s funny! Regards, Jeff  Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Oct 11, 2024, at 7:14 AM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: I got an email about reading maps backward, but it turned out to be spam. ---- Original Message ---- From: "Adam Moffett" Sent: 10/11/2024 5:08:01 AM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather Haha yeah, maybe that’s the beginning of the end. Get Outlook for iOS From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 12:38:38 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather   I figured we were lost way back when when we tried to get the "spam" tag forced into email headers and the congresspeople of the state of california passed a law forbidding it.   They were worried that election propaganda would meet the definition of spam...  That was the last attempt to make the internet reasonable... On 10/10/24 2:23 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: There are people who see the changes and have concluded that it’s weather control by the government.  A certain congresswoman made statements about the hurricanes hitting southern red states in the month before the election.  Then she clarified that yes she means weather control.  Then she doubled down that yes, obviously “they” can control the weather and that it’s a ridiculous lie to say it can’t be done.   I’m unclear on how proponents of this idea imagine a Hurricane would impact elections.  It reminds me of the Southpark underpants gnomes. Deep State Gnomes Plan to Win Election: 1. Cause hurricanes in red states. 2. ???? 3. Win!   I would like to believe it’s a tiny number of crackpots, but I don’t think it’s that simple.  I’m scared for the future because everyone has access to so much information and so much of it is bullshit.  If I’m exposed to 1000 incorrect ideas and I accept one of them, then I now believe in an incorrect idea, and that incorrect idea will affect how I live my life –including how I vote.  I can look at 999 other incorrect ideas and still feel like I’m a discerning and intelligent consumer because I successfully recognized them all as bullshit.   So a person can believe the moon landing was fake, and they know they’re not the stupid one because they’re a smart person.  They did research and got the information, and they’re not some idiot who’s fooled by complete nonsense like “NOAA creates hurricanes” and “lizard people secretly run the world”.    I’ve been using the really crazy examples, but all of our political opinions are being shaped by ideas being fed to us through all manner of media.  Odds are that every single one of us has absorbed some bullshit.    We may have to burn down the whole Internet for our own good.  We are not ready for this power.   -Adam       From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 2:53 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather   I am guessing those that want to deny everything will also deny centuries of weather observation data...  Many, perhaps most,  resist paradigm change.    From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:18 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather   Come explain this to my whole family, please.  I’ll invite you to Thanksgiving dinner.     “Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures.    So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.  More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.    Occam's Razor.  “   From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Weather   I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy theory.  I am not given to any conspiracies.      Today the subject was HAARP.  (Defunct research project to attempt ionospheric heating).   I was actually tangentially associated with HAARP for a while.    Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere that could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very exciting.  The problem is, it never worked.  They learned a whole bunch about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out.  But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the weather.  Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP.  And control is not really a good word, more like influence.    I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears.  HAARP was heating the ionosphere.  There ain’t no weather up there. Weather is in the troposphere. Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 100 times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in temperature.    Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture.  Something like 7% per degree.  Don’t recall if that was F or C.    If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with something like radiowaves interesting things could happen.  Even nefarious things.  So far, no system has been demonstrated.  Inverse square law governs.  If you calculate the specific heat of a large enough volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several nuclear powered aircraft carriers  to power the transmitter.  Better just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out.    Here is another fact:  For as long as there have been thermometers, humans have been keeping a record of temperatures.  Some of those old thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards.   Here is another fact:  All the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures.    So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air.  More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain.    Occam's Razor.  -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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