When I was a kid, the warnings were for the coming ice age. And all the oil would be gone by 1990.
From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 1:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather i take issue with 2000 year graphs when recordings have only been available since the 1500s. If we were looking at a 100 point scale, thats something, but a 2 point scale with extrapolated estimates. nah fam. electronics and better diagnostics came to be in the early mid 1900s. We had dustbowls in the early 1900s. I dont dismiss datasets as having some value, but really, the same science has been wrong consistently for as long as science has had authority. even before the earth was flat, but more detrimental as following the science has become a religion and the new crusades begin. Grocery shopping and bums shitting in california tells me all that i need to know about the zealotry of climate "science" So, in the late 70s/early 80s they made that commercial, i personally feel is one of the best commercials made to date with the indian fella getting trash thrown on him at he side of the road. Outstanding, actually emotionally moving commercial, and I also think that was about the time climate "scientists" realized that this is nothing more than a reality show, they can become stars, and there is a ton of loot on the table. We had the hole in the ozone, 30,000 years to repair it, the gamma rays from the sun were going to envelope the children in fire. We banned CFC that are still used and magically it closed up The acid rain, our crops were going to die and our skin would melt off, that didnt get the traction theyd hoped, so it kind of just went to the recycle bin for future telethons. But motherfucket did they hit the jackpot on the rain forest, you have beautiful trees, amazing wildlife, indigenous people to exploit for political gain, holy cow, but how best to monetize it? The motherfucker who coined the "lungs of the planet", I bet he got all the sodomy he wanted, thats a hero right there, marketing genius of the regime, ol Joey Gobbles woulda been proud. So they convinced every school child that we were about 7 pieces of toilet paper from suffocation, the rainforest produces 85% of the earths oxygen and the canopy is the only thing shading the planet from becoming a desert, if one more monkey dies, the jungle gyms will melt and we will all get cooties. The only solution..... paper bags have got to go, or youll kill a tibetian monk. Plastic (corporate sponsor of the green new scheme) was the only solution, why kill a tree and biodegrade that bag back to mother earth when we can bury microplastics in a landfill for 25,000 years. Fast forward 50 years, we discover the rain forests actually account for very little O2 scrubbing, microplastics are in everything, plastic bag band caused massive hepatitis breakouts on the east coast, because contrary to popular belief, bums prefer to courteously shit in a bag and chuck in in a dumpster, but the plastic bags are banned, and fuck balls if we arent back to paper bags, but having to cut new trees because the byproduct we used to use for those bags is now made into composite deck boards... yeah, no, fuck these guys, imma burn coal on the beach for the next 20 years, and low tide average wont change On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 1:59 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: Again, no reason to doubt this data. I don’t preach causes or effects. Just the existence of the temps. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather I don't believe what I read or hear anymore, but with that caveat, I saw a claim that people in Florida tend to believe climate change is driving more severe weather as well as sea level rise. Despite their political leanings. Because they see it with their own eyes. ---- Original Message ---- From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: 10/9/2024 1:18:51 PM To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Weather Come explain this to my whole family, please. I’ll invite you to Thanksgiving dinner. “Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures. So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain. Occam's Razor. “ From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 11:20 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Weather I have many friends and acquaintances that love them a good conspiracy theory. I am not given to any conspiracies. Today the subject was HAARP. (Defunct research project to attempt ionospheric heating). I was actually tangentially associated with HAARP for a while. Being a life long ham the prospect of creating a patch of ionosphere that could reflect HF signals any time of the day or night was very exciting. The problem is, it never worked. They learned a whole bunch about the upper atmosphere but the initial promise never worked out. But wow, is there a group believing that the guvmnt can control the weather. Yes, they can with cloud seeding etc but not with HAARP. And control is not really a good word, more like influence. I try to speak reason, share some facts, always falls on deaf ears. HAARP was heating the ionosphere. There ain’t no weather up there. Weather is in the troposphere. Troposcatter can inject a bit of energy in the troposphere but it is 100 times higher frequencies and produces no noticeable increase in temperature. Here is a fact: Warmer air can hold more moisture. Something like 7% per degree. Don’t recall if that was F or C. If you could selectively and effectively heat the atmosphere with something like radiowaves interesting things could happen. Even nefarious things. So far, no system has been demonstrated. Inverse square law governs. If you calculate the specific heat of a large enough volume of air (Like a sphere 20 miles in diameter) the amount of energy needed for the transmitters would be on the scale of several nuclear powered aircraft carriers to power the transmitter. Better just to launch small nukes with cloud seeding fall out. Here is another fact: For as long as there have been thermometers, humans have been keeping a record of temperatures. Some of those old thermometers actually survived so that their inaccuracies could be characterized and their records could be adjusted to modern standards. Here is another fact: All the records indicate a non linear increase in temperatures. So circle back to the beginning, warmer air == more moisture in the air. More moisture in the air makes clouds which make storms and rain. Occam's Razor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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