And 13.5% mortgage rates. Buying a house in the 70's was Waaaay more
difficult than it is now...
On 9/27/24 12:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Sounds about right.
Only thing I'd add is I think the Internet contributes to this.
I hear from my 37 year old son how all these difficulties are because
the "boomers" broke everything and rigged the system against them. I
don't think the kids really know what a baby boomer is, it's a synonym
for "the olds".
At 37 he's not the Instagram/Tiktok generation, more the
Youtube/Reddit/podcast generation. But people are telling him the
boomers rigged the system and made life hard for him.
Hey, I am a boomer. I went through recessions, the Vietnam draft,
double digit inflation, the Arab oil embargo, the stock market crash
of 1987. Oh and JFK, John Lennon and Ronald Reagan being shot. I
figured I had it good because my dad and uncle fought in WW2, and my
grandfather lived through the Great Depression. But I guess everything
was just peachy until my generation conspired to make life difficult
for the "not olds".
---- Original Message ----
From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
Sent: 9/27/2024 12:42:26 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gen Z new college grads
My take on this is that most high school or college grads take a while
to figure out how to manage having a job. They also take a while to
accumulate enough resources and get paid enough that life doesn't
consist of working your ass off just to barely cover (or not)
essential living expenses. Most of us started out living in crap
conditions, eating whatever we could get for cheap, and driving
vehicles which were lucky to start on a good day.
The difference I see is that gen Z seems to blame the 'olds' for their
problems and don't understand that everyone goes through this barely
feeding yourself stage. There is also this odd sense of entitlement
mixed with bizarre expectations. I don't remember many of my peers
expecting to be given a job where they didn't have to do normal work
things like show up and get paid large amounts of money. Oh, and to
never be given negative feedback.
I realize every generation goes through this cycle that eventually
ends up with complaining about the younger generations. It makes me
smile to see the millennials switch from being the problem generation
to whining about the problem generation. But, I can't help but feel
that there is something fundamentally broken in a very
non-similar-to-the-past way with many in the latest crop.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2024, 7:52 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've often said this, but part of the issue is selection bias.
People who
can't hack it will eventually either wise up or remove themselves
from the
work force, and then the older cohort will look better as a
consequence.
I'm at the borderline between "Gen X" and "Millennial", and people
complained and moaned about both age groups. We're senior staff and
management now and complaining about how lazy Gen Z is. You can
find news
articles from the 1800's complaining about "today's young
people". This is
the same wheel that's been turning since the beginning.
Ugg and Ogg sat in their cave knapping flint spearheads and
complaining
about how wheels are making kids too lazy to do real work.
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:31 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gen Z new college grads
I assume some percentage of people in the Gen Z cohort do want to
work hard
and build a successful career. Imagine you're a new grad hired
into a work
from home or 2 days at the office company. That's got to be sub
optimum. I
think the whole Covid work from home thing also relieved the first
level
managers of actually doing their job - managing people. Or is that
done by
AI now?
Article seems to say after a couple years of just griping about
it, bosses
are starting to fire the non performers. So what were the bosses
doing until
now to earn their pay? Oooooh, firing people is hard! With newbies
you also
need to do feedback and mentoring, because according to the article,
colleges aren't preparing them for the world of work. And if these
companies
have accumulated a bunch of worthless employees with bad
attitudes, that's
going to rub off on impressionable newbies. Honestly, that kind of
happened
to me at my first job after college.
Just my $0.02 worth.
---- Original Message ----
From: ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: 9/26/2024 5:06:27 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gen Z new college grads
There seems to be a growing idea amongst the younger citizens that
there is
a universal human right to never suffer hurt feelings. The ultra
woke I
think would see a world where you have to be nice all the time to
everyone,
irrespective of circumstance.
This was prophesied by Rod Serling:
https://youtu.be/QxTMbIxEj-E?si=KMH-oBOURYW7tPbM
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan-GAMs
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 3:46 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gen Z new college grads
What did you expect? They're raised on TV and gameboxes and a
diet that
literally had no food value, zero nutrition. Their brains never
developed
and most of them are now living on adderal or ritilin.
They're non-functional humans and we have an entire generation of
them.
With the attention-span of a fruit-fly. We might as well have used
lead-cookware, same result.
On 9/26/24 14:13, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
https://fortune.com/2024/09/26/bosses-firing-gen-z-grads-months-after-
> hiring/
>
>
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