That episode left a lot out, specifically about crumple zones.
1) should have had a car sitting against the wall and slammed into it at
100mph and 50 mph
2) should have had their clay tests with objects that deform.
3) should have had a car stationary not against a wall against a car
moving at 50 and 100 mph..., i.e. the car stationary could move
backwards all the way through the collisions
the two cars hitting each other at 50, yes they are not immovable
objects in the collision AND they have crumple zones. And two cars have
twice the crumple zone. There is a huge amount of energy going into
crumpling twice the steel, even with twice the mass...
On 2/7/23 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Good video.
I am now faced with asking State Farm to make me whole with respect to
the crash.
We have had bad experience with State Farm in the past.
Any tips?
*From:* Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 1:18 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much
Watch the video.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 2:52 PM Robert Andrews <[email protected]>
wrote:
two crumple zones hitting each other vs one crumple zone hitting a
wall,
makes off the cuff sense to me... two old, non crumple zone, cars
hitting each other would seem like what it would take to get a 120
mph
impact. Those crumple zones make a monster difference...
On 2/6/23 10:52, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Not correct, Bill :(
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 1:07 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> There would be the difference between colliding with an "almost"
> immovable object (wall) versus colliding with a vehicle that has
> some semblance of a crush zone. I don't know how much that
> difference would be.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 2/6/2023 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> As I recall, mythbusters did the whole two cars head on vs
one car
>> and an immovable wall. Seemed like there was no difference.
>> *From:* Brian Webster
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 9:25 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much
>>
>> Yes I would rather have a collision with another car at the
>> difference in speed than the combined speed of the two…. ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Brian____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
>> *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2023 9:54 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Huh….never heard them called Jersey Barriers before.____
>>
>> Apparently the slope on the bottom is to make your tires
ride up
>> so you redirect back into your own lane (though possibly
flipped
>> over) whereas a flat wall might make you flip into the oncoming
>> lane. ____
>>
>> Fun stuff.____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robert
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 03, 2023 10:42 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Same, california name for them. Always remembered that
name from
>> the movie "Volcano"____
>>
>> On 2/3/23 5:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:____
>>
>> Looks the same as Jersey barriers?____
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Robert
>> mailto:[email protected] wrote:____
>>
>> surplus K rail, if you think they might make it over,
>> double it up...
>>
>>
>>
https://www.eiffeltrading.com/marketplace/traffic-barrier/barrier-wall/k-rail-barrier-wall
<https://www.eiffeltrading.com/marketplace/traffic-barrier/barrier-wall/k-rail-barrier-wall>____
>>
>> On 2/3/23 9:19 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:____
>>
>> Yeah, sonotube filled with a rebar cage. Make a
>> picket fence of them. Cheaper than a cutover
to a new
>> building. I have 576 strands feeding this
shelter.
>> Or maybe I beam hammered in with a pile driver.
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>>
>> ____
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Chuck McCown
>>
>> McCown Technology Corporation
>> 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> 801-250-9503 Office
>> 435-830-4306 Cell
>> www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
<http://www.mccowntech.com>
>> www.microtrench.pro <http://www.microtrench.pro>
<http://www.microtrench.pro>
>> www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>
>> <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> *From:*TJ Trout ____
>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, February 3, 2023 10:08 AM____
>>
>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>>
>> *Cc:*Chuck McCown ____
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that much____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> I'm sure you could design some bollards that
wouldn't
>> allow a tractor trailer through your fence 😁____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 8:34 AM Chuck McCown via AF
>> <[email protected]> wrote:____
>>
>> I think we are going to install a larger
shelter,
>> farther away from the I-80 ROW fence. Second
>> crash right there. First to come through the
>> fence. Car landed on our back up generator
after
>> wiping out our fiber splicing trailer, dump
>> trailer and really nice powered reel
trailer. ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Hope the kid had insurance. No seat belt.
Head
>> wound but apparently no broken bones. ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> *From:*Mark Radabaugh ____
>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, February 3, 2023 7:27 AM____
>>
>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Missed me by that
much____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> I don’t see the brown stain marking where
you were
>> standing before the car arrived. ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Mark____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Mark Radabaugh____
>>
>> Amplex____
>>
>> 22690 Pemberville Rd____
>>
>> Luckey, OH 43443____
>>
>> 419-837-5015 x 1021____
>>
>> 419-261-5996 cell____
>>
>> [email protected]____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> ____
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2023, at 7:55 AM, Chuck
McCown via
>> AF <[email protected]> wrote:____
>>
>> ____
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